On 3/16/06, Marcus Macauley <address@hidden> wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:29:43 -0800, Trevor Bača""
On 3/16/06, Arno Waschk <address@hidden> wrote:
for a contemporary music score i need hairpin having a circles
their tip, indicating cresc./descresc. from/into silence.
what is the easiest way to enter these into the score? or does this
to be implemented yet? i did not find that mentioned in the docs.
I'm interested in this kind of 'al niente' / 'de niente' thing, too,
but haven't had a chance to figure out the right settings yet.
If it turns out to be difficult to do currently, maybe we could
sponsor together once the 2.9 dev cycle starts.
Another way of notating this, which I prefer, but also I think needs
implemented, is to follow the decresc. (or precede the cresc.) with a
bold/italic "n" or "n.", for niente.
Does #(make-dynamic-script "n.") not help? (As in the examples in
At least one music font/notation program, I forget which, includes for
this purpose a letter "n" in the same style as mrsfp for dynamics. So
perhaps the ideal way to implement this latter kind of niente notation
(the hairpin circle tip being the other kind) would be to create a new
dynamic mark, called "n", and syntax analogous to the other dynamics,
c2~\> c~ c r\n
...would do a hairpin decresc. to niente, with the "n" marked under
rest (and, like any other dynamic mark, signalling an end of the
Perhaps, then, there could be a setting which would decide whether
syntax prints a dynamic letter "n" on the one hand, or modifies the
hairpin with a circle at the tip, on the other hand.
Then one could switch globally between the two methods of notating
without rewriting each instance.
The syntax for a cresc. from silence would have to be a little less
elegant, though maybe simply:
c2~\n\< c~ c\! r
And for consistency, the first example could be modified to:
c2~\> c~ c r\!\n
...explicitly ending the descrescendo.
I don't know whether this sort of syntax is practical; it's just the
thing that comes to mind.
Maybe more practical is 1) a setting to switch on/off circles at the
of a hairpin, for the first method of notation, and 2) a new dynamic
letter, "n" (and command "\n"), for the second method.
As an alternative to the second method -- and a perhaps more
one, recommended by Kurt Stone -- niente can be notated not with the
dynamic letter "n" but with the italic "n." (this time with a period).
I've also used a dynamic-font "s" for this purpose (abbr. "silence")
in Finale, but eventually backed away from the notation because it
just seemed too English-centered and too similar to "s" for "subito"
in other contexts.
This should be possible to do now, but I can't figure out how to
off the boldface:
n = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:text #:italic "n." ) ) % This
the text bold-italic.
n = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:text "n." ) ) % In fact, even this
makes it bold-italic, as if that's the default text font style. Why?
how to switch it off?
(I'm using make-dynamic-script, rather than a regular \markup command,
because the "n." needs to be aligned with the hairpin.)
Thanks in advance for any feedback on the "niente"
(I too might be willing to co-sponsor it) and/or on this latter
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