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## Re: Shortening ties

 From: Kieren MacMillan Subject: Re: Shortening ties Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:05:33 -0400

```Hi, Michael:

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```Logic dictates, to me at least, that one of these should work:
\once\override Tie #'X-extent = #'(-10 . -10) <b,, b,,, >4--~
\once\override Staff.Tie #'X-extent = #'(-10 . -10) < b,, b,,, >4--~
\once\override Voice.Tie #'X-extent = #'(-10 . -10) < b,, b,,, >4--~
```
```
Unfortunately, your logic is flawed!  =)

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If I'm not mistaken, #'X-extent represents the horizontal space APPARENTLY taken up by an object, not the actual width of the object. It's more like a padding value than a size value.
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For example, I can reserve a lot of space for a quarter note by using

%%%  CODE BEGINS
\version "2.9.14"

\paper
{
ragged-right = ##t
}

stuff = \relative
{
c4 c
\once \override NoteColumn #'X-extent = #'(0 . 20) c
c
}

\score
{
\stuff
}
%%%  CODE BEGINS

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However, it's important to realise that I haven't changed the physical (visual) width of the object itself -- I've only made Lilypond THINK the note is wider than it actually is, and therefore Lilypond leaves more room (padding) around it.
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Make sense?

Best regards,
Kieren.

```