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Re: TupletBracket behaviour


From: Vivian Barty-Taylor
Subject: Re: TupletBracket behaviour
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:07:53 +0000 (GMT)

Dear Mats and other,
As we would say in Dutch, "dat valt mee" - roughly translated as "that could be worse"! I can always change the X-extent of the TupletNumber at different points in the score, and it's going to be a lot less work than making minute changes in spacing every time it occurs.
All the best,
Vivian.

----- Original Message ----
From: Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden>
To: Vivian Barty-Taylor <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January, 2007 9:58:34 AM
Subject: Re: TupletBracket behaviour

Looking at the implementation, it turns out that the check to see if the
bracket
should be printed compares the width of the bracket with the width of
the number.
So, one ugly workaround to get the bracket printed is to do
\override TupletNumber #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0)
but the disadvantage is that the bracket will then run into the number.

   /Mats

Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
> Dear Mats,
> I'm using 2.10.12 for Mac OSX.
> Please find attached .ly file and PDF (in case your Lilypond does
> something different.) The "problem" only occurs in tuplets where the
> first note is shorter than the second and with values of
> #'shortest-duration-space less than 1.1 (the TupletBracket doesn't print).
>
> I'll experiment with the minimum-length property you mention.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Vivian.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden>
> To: Vivian Barty-Taylor <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 January, 2007 9:00:30 PM
> Subject: Re: TupletBracket behaviour
>
> I've never seen this happen and I couldn't construct an
> example myself where it happened. I hope you are aware
> of the fact that no tuplet bracket is printed by default if
> there's a beam of the same length, but from your description
> it seems fairly clear that this is not the problem here.
>
> If you can make up a small example that illustrates the problem,
> it will be much easier to figure out a solution. There is a property
> minimum-length that's listed if you click on the spanner-interface
> link but it doesn't seem to work for TupletBracket objects.
>
>    /Mats
>
> Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
>
> > When the size of a TupletBracket gets too small, it disappears leaving
> > just the TupletNumber. While I can see that this might be attractive
> > in some circumstances I would like to switch it off (so the
> > TupletBracket always prints.) Is there a way to do this? At the
> > moment, I'm putting small increases in horizontal spacing into my
> > score each time this happens, but this is very fiddly. There must be a
> > neater way.
> >
> > I've searched through the properties for TupletBracket but am honestly
> > a bit lost.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Vivian.
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