Re: Bar numbers at beginning of line

[Walter Hofmeister]

Thanks Mats, this will work fine.

Walter H.
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> ------ Forwarded Message
> From: Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden>
> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:37:12 +0200
> To: Walter Hofmeister <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Bar numbers at beginning of line
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> Please always keep the discussion on the mailing list, for the benefit
> of yourself since you get access to the collected
> expertise on the list and for the benefit of others who experience
> similar problems. Feel free to quote my answer below if you wish.
> 
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> 
> Quoting Walter Hofmeister <address@hidden>:
> 
>> On 8/6/07 7:20 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>>> As a musician, I would get very confused if I saw a bar number
>>> in the middle of a measure (which is what you seem to try to achieve).
>>> If the conductor asked an orchestra to play from bar 100 and the bar
>>> number was printed that way, I'm sure that
>>> at least half the orchestra would start at the top of the line
>>> (i.e. in the middle of the measure) not at the beginning of the full
>>> measure.
>>> 
>> I agree. However, in this example the end of the first section and the
>> beginning of the second section (both incomplete) falls at the beginning of
>> the line. If the conductor asked the orchestra to start with the pickup to
>> bar 9, they would be forced to count up from the beginning of the previous
>> line, or back from the next line.
> 
> Not if you follow my recommendation below.
> 
>> This would not be an issue if the split
>> bar was placed somewhere else other that the beginning of the line.
>> 
>>> To avoid this possible confusion, I would strongly recommend to instead
>>> typeset the bar number at the first bar line of the new line.
>>> 
>> Got it. By using "\override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility =
>> #end-of-line-invisible" preceding the notes of bar 9, I get a measure number
>> at the beginning of bar 9. Then if I use "\override Score.BarNumber
>> #'break-visibility = #begin-of-line-visible", the measure numbers revert
>> back to the beginning of the line.
> 
> Easier is to use a \once \override Score.BarNumber #'break-visibility =
> #all-visible
> just before the bar line where you want the bar number.
> 
>> This is acceptable but I think that it
>> would look better if there was a bar number at the beginning of each line
>> regardless of whether it is a broken measure or not (in this case bar 8,
>> which would make the pickup very easy). If this was an orchestral part, it
>> would probably be wise to place a rehearsal mark over the beginning of the
>> 9th bar.
> 
> As I already said, I would strongly recommend against that solution, to
> avoid confusion.
> 
>>> I afraid that you may need some advanced Scheme hacking to obtain
>>> this in LilyPond, but it's certainly doable (don't have the time to
>>> figure out the details right now).
>>> 
>> I was afraid of this, but thanks anyway.
> 
> I was just confused and was looking for a very complicated solution
> to the break-visibility setting described above.
> Of course, if you want to make it completely automated, then you will
> need something more complicated.
> 
>     /Mats
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