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## Re: Different vertical dynamics aligning in 2.10 and 2.11 (Was: Aligning

 From: Trevor Bača Subject: Re: Different vertical dynamics aligning in 2.10 and 2.11 (Was: Aligning "sempre pp" with "p"...) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:44:19 -0600

On Feb 11, 2008 8:10 AM, Mats Bengtsson <address@hidden> wrote:

Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> Thanks a lot for all the different suggestions! Again, this shows the
> flexibility of Lilypond - there is no one correct solution, but many possible
> ones.
> I'm preparing an LSR snippet to highlight all the different approaches.
>
I just sent yet another solution, that you might want to include.
> While testing it, I found out that lilypond 2.10 and 2.11 treat the vertical
> position of dynamics and markups quite differently. While in 2.10, all texts
> are vertically aligned, there are some collisions. In 2.11, on the other
> hand, there are no collisions (unless you force them by setting
> with-dimensions), but the vertical positions look terrible and are not
> aligned at all.
>
> I'm attaching the .ly file and the corresponding pdfs from 2.10.33 and 2.11.39
> (joined into one pdf to stay below the 64kB size limit of the mailing list).
>
> Is the behavior in 2.11.39 intended or a bug?
>
Of course it's intentional ;-) In version 2.11, there's a general
mechanism to
avoid collisions between different objects outside the stave, by moving
them
up or down if necessary to get them out of the way.

What layout would you like to see? If you want to avoid the collisions,
you could
either shift some of the dynamics up or down, as is currently done in
2.11, or you
could change the note spacing so that the dynamics can stay on a single
line without
collisions. If you want to try what such a solution looks like, you can use
\override DynamicText #'extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0.5)
see Section 4.4.3 Outside Staff objects in the Learning Manual for
version 2.11
for more information on such tweaks.

As a sidenote, I've been extremely busy the last couple of months and so haven't been keeping up with most of the doc improvements. I just clicked over to 4.4.3 in the LM and I have to say that I'm extremely impressed. IMO we've needed fully written-out examples of how the different settings and attributes interact for quite some time. (This is especially true of spacing). And the LM looks to be precisely that.

I don't know who authored those particular pages, but I'm both impressed and grateful. I'll look forward to reading through the other LM sections soon.

Trevor.

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