Re: problems with learning lilypond

[Carl D. Sorensen]

On 11/27/08 2:24 AM, "John Sellers" <address@hidden> wrote:

> Understood, and no argument....here then is another suggestion...if this
> tutorial is as good as you say.  Make sure it crosses the paths of newbies
> enough that they will end up reading before they get in as deep as I have.

I think we have solved this problem.  When newbies ask questions, we first
say "Read the Learning Manual".  And I've already asked you twice to read
the Learning Manual as a starting place for making improvements to the
documentation.

The new Learning Manual is *WAY* better than the old docs.  And everybody,
even veteran users like yourself, should read the LM.  I guarantee that if
you read the LM, you will understand lots of things you currently have
problems with.

> 
> Will I read it?  Yes, may the next time I run into a problem.

Don't wait until you run into a problem.  The Learning Manual is not a good
resource for *solving* problems.  That's what the Notation Reference is for.
The Learning Manual is an *excellent* resource for *avoiding* problems.  So
read it, from cover to cover, before the next time you work on LilyPond.  As
an experienced user, you can just read it; you don't need to try the
tutorial stuff if you don't want to.  But it will give you a *great*
overview of most of the stuff that is confusing in LilyPond, if you're
anything like me.

> But would you 
> tell me where to find it, and just which tutorial you are referring to?  I've
> read tutorial stuff a few times in the long distant past...and when I do read,
> I don't always make the associations you expect me to....
> 
> Tell you what, I will take a look. I'll even try to go over the a few of the
> problems I had in the past to see if it answers to them.  There reason I have
> never looked at the tutorial in question is that I do not use anything beyond
> the current working stable version---actually the cygwin verison.   Is this
> learning tutorial going to be part of a stable version soon or might it be a
> good idea to patch up a generic version of the same that lies in the path of
> very newbie so obviously that they will get the message and go through it?
>

The development version is currently more stable (read: bug free) than the
"stable" version.  You should download the 2.11.65 development version, and
use it.  This advice has been given consistently over the last three months
on -user.

 
Thanks,

Carl