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Re: slurs and ties
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David Kastrup |
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Re: slurs and ties |
Date: |
Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:46:10 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) |
"Erik Appeldoorn" <address@hidden> writes:
> Thanks Nick,
>
> Interesting to see how your solution differs from the one Kieren and Carl
> offered. More than one way to reach the goal. Nice.
Disagree. Seems rather like more than one trick to reach the goal.
>From a user interface perspective, I find both solutions distastefully
tricky.
Now there is something to be said against tieing into a different voice
like that musically: it messes up the audible voice situation. Unless
dictated by the instrument (and then there is little necessity to write
the tie explicitly), it is cleaner to articulate the note separately.
When playing accordion and doing something like
<e g>8( <c e>)
I have to take pains to explicitly break off the e from the first note a
slight bit earlier so that the voice/note relation does not get messed
up.
The notation manual says something like
_Using ties with arpeggios_
Ties are sometimes used to write out arpeggios. In this case, two
tied notes need not be consecutive. This can be achieved by setting the
`tieWaitForNote' property to `#t'. The same feature is also useful,
for example, to tie a tremolo to a chord, but in principle, it can also
be used for ordinary consecutive notes.
\relative c' {
\set tieWaitForNote = ##t
\grace { c16[ ~ e ~ g] ~ } <c, e g>2
\repeat tremolo 8 { c32 ~ c' ~ } <c c,>1
e8 ~ c ~ a ~ f ~ <e' c a f>2
\tieUp
c8 ~ a
\tieDown
\tieDotted
g8 ~ c g2
}
Personally, I think that "tieWaitForNote" should be the default
behavior. There is nothing whatsoever gained that I can see by dropping
explicit ties. Or even tieWaitForNoteOrEndRepeatOrEndAlternative.
And a wrong tie is more noticeable if it produces output. It is a
reasonable help to emit a warning for possibly unintended non-matching
ties, but probably it might be nice if adding another tie will silence
the warning, like g8 ~~ c g2.
That feels nicer than a global override like tieWaitForNote, even if you
may use \once \override instead.
Feature request for tracker?
--
David Kastrup
- Re: slurs and ties, (continued)
- Re: slurs and ties, Kieren MacMillan, 2009/11/06
- Message not available
- Re: slurs and ties, Kieren MacMillan, 2009/11/06
- RE: slurs and ties, Erik Appeldoorn, 2009/11/06
- RE: slurs and ties, Erik Appeldoorn, 2009/11/06
- Re: slurs and ties, Carl Sorensen, 2009/11/06
- Re: slurs and ties, Kieren MacMillan, 2009/11/06
- RE: slurs and ties, Erik Appeldoorn, 2009/11/07
- Re: slurs and ties, Kieren MacMillan, 2009/11/07
Re: slurs and ties, Nick Payne, 2009/11/07