Re: expressive marks inside slurs

[Paul Scott]

On 01/26/2011 03:39 AM, James Lowe wrote:
> Paul
>
>    
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Scott [mailto:address@hidden
> > Sent: 26 January 2011 04:45
> > To: James Lowe
> > Cc: address@hidden
> > Subject: Re: expressive marks inside slurs
> >
> > On 01/25/2011 01:48 PM, James Lowe wrote:
> >      
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Scott<address@hidden>
> > > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:36:23 -0700
> > > To: "address@hidden"<address@hidden>
> > > Subject: expressive marks inside slurs
> > >
> > >
> > >        
> > > > 2.13.46:
> > > >
> > > > I've been searching the documentation and the web for a while trying
> > > > to get accents, etc. inside slurs.
> > > >
> > > > 1.  What draws accents, turns, etc.?
> > > >
> > > >          
> > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-
> > > attac
> > > hed-to-notes
> > >
> > > To get them 'inside' slurs see a few paragraphs down
> > >
> > > 'Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts'
> > >
> > > You need to set the priority of the relevant mark - the example should
> > > give you the hints.
> > >
> > >        
> > Ok.  Since a slur doesn't seem to be a script I went back to trying:
> >
> > \override Slur #'outside-staff-priority = #-1
> >
> > after putting it nearer the relevant music code it did move the expressive
> > marks inside but the vertical spacing increased drastically and produced the
> > strange result shown by the code below.  Why aren't the accents and
> > portatos the same distance from the noteheads as the staccato marks are?
> > They seem to follow the curve of the slur.
> >
> > Thanks for your help so far.  I had read that part of the documentation and it
> > didn't seem to make sense since it talked about scripts.
> >
> > I would still like to know where in the Internals Reference I can find the
> > tweakable properties of accents, etc.
> >      
> It's the 'etc.' bit that bothers me in that this is not a simple one line 
> answer, and the answer is 'it depends'
>    

The subject says expressive marks as in NR 1.3

> There is a very good section in the Learning Manual
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/learning/the-internals-reference-manual
>
> That walks you through various scenarios (in fact the first one is a 'slur').
>    

The inside slur problem is solved except it brings up what might be a 
bug in terms of placement of expressive marks.
> And this should show you how to find which context and grob you need to modify 
> for a particular object.
>    

I've been there and haven't found expressive marks (accents, etc.) but 
I'll look again tonight.

Thanks,

Paul