Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

[Urs Liska]

Am 06.05.2018 um 11:43 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic:
> Hello Urs,
>
> musicsml2ly and Finale 2014 behave as expected, but MuseScore 2.2.1 produces 
> beams in both cases, i.e. even when there are no beams in the MusicXML data.

OK, that seems that between 2.1.0 and 2.2.1 MuseScore has added that 
feature.
Still it's of course inacceptable not to export beams at all.

Unfortunately we can so far only deal with explicit beams, there's no 
way (without substantial work to redo LilyPond's autobeaming (and 
beaming pattern) in Python).

Thanks for testing
Urs

> Strange…
>
> JM
>
> > Le 6 mai 2018 à 11:09, Urs Liska <address@hidden> a écrit :
> >
> > Hello Jacques,
> >
> >
> > Am 06.05.2018 um 10:11 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic:
> > > Hello Urs,
> > >
> > > I’m doing tests with MusicXML, could you send me an example where MuseScore 
> > > doesn’t show any beams after exporting from LilyPond?
> > Attached you'll find a simple nobeam.ly and the file nobeam.xml, which is the 
> > result from exporting with the current master of python-ly. This will be opened 
> > without beams in MuseScore 2.
> > nobeam-withbeams.xml is the result of exporting from the branch 
> > xml-handle-beams (my current pull request). The XML file I originally sent was 
> > also created from that branch.
> >
> > Thanks for helping to look into it.
> > Urs
> >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
> > > > Le 5 mai 2018 à 11:50, address@hidden a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > Hi Torsten,
> > > >
> > > > 5. Mai 2018 11:44, "Torsten Hämmerle" <address@hidden> schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Urs,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sibelius works fine:
> > > > >
> > > > > <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/t3887/05-beam-sibelius.png>
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > > As my Dorico evaluation period has expired, I can't even start it.
> > > > > All the others allow testing w/o save/export functionality, but Steinberg is
> > > > > much more restrictive in that respect.
> > > > On the Facebook group I got a screenshot of Dorico, so (not unexpectedly) this 
> > > > works too.
> > > >
> > > > So my conclusion is: we can export faulty XML, and Finale, Sibelius, Dorico, 
> > > > MuseScore and Verovio will still properly handle it.
> > > > I find that somewhat embarrassing, but I think it's much better than nothing (I 
> > > > was pretty surprised to see that MusesScore didn't show *any* beams after 
> > > > exporting a small example from LilyPond ...)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to all who responded.
> > > > Urs
> > > >
> > > > > All the best,
> > > > > Torsten
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > >
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