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Re: LYNX-DEV lynx on

From: Laura Eaves
Subject: Re: LYNX-DEV lynx on
Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:18:54 -0400 (EDT)

> Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 16:57:40 -0500 (EST)
> From: Foteos Macrides <address@hidden>
> Wayne Buttles <address@hidden> wrote;
> >> Lynx should treat ALT=""  just the same way it treats a missing ALT , by
> >I have every reason to believe that if someone took the trouble to put in
> >ALT="" then they meant it not to be viewable to text browsers.  By
> >changing that behavior we will break the intended look of MANY web pages.

I wasn't suggesting treating alt="" as a missing alt.  This would expose all
the [INLINE]'s, etc, thaat have been intentionally covered up.  The only case
I was thinking of was the single case of a link containing an
IMG with alt="" and no additional text in the link, so the link becomes
invisible.  But apparently some authors want this feature...  I don't think
it would affect amny pages though.
In any case it's probably not worth the attention it's received on this
thread...:)  or the effort to implement it...

> >Now, as far as <a href="a-url-for-crawlers"></a> goes...isn't that what
> >this is for:
> >
> >l  LIST   list the references (links) in the current document
> >
> >A beautiful feature!  

Unfortunatly, using LIST all you get is a list of URLs, and you can't tell
which ones were visible on the original page.

>       Right on Wayne!!!  If an author uses *valid* markup to indicate
> that a link should be hidden, either because the target is inappropriate
> without image handling enabled, or because the target is acting solely
> as an aid for crawlers to reduce the strain of looping crawls through
> the site, and the code is modified to ignore *valid* markup, but instead
> gives way to esoteric hacks that *intentionally* show bracketted numbers
> with no link name to indicate what they're about, that's degrading Lynx,
> not enhancing it.

As you  know, the bracketed numbers ALREADY APPEAR when link numbering is on,
without any esoteric hacks.  This has nothing to do sith displaying [LINK] in
the particular case I mentioned.

>       If, instead, the Lynx user has configured or toggled clickable
> images on, then he/she presumeably does want access to the IMG source,
> and by logical extension should have "labeled" access to the otherwise
> hidden link ([LINK]-[IMAGE]), as the vanilla Lynx does, and the devel
>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> code should keep doing.

Toggling clickable images gives an explosion of more info than
most people want to sift through.  I personally don't use it for that reason.

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