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Re: [Monotone-devel] Status of blue sky ideas?

From: Stephen Leake
Subject: Re: [Monotone-devel] Status of blue sky ideas?
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:52:25 -0500
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Thomas Keller <address@hidden> writes:

> Am 13.12.11 00:33, schrieb Judson Lester:
>> [...] So, seeing an email from a few months back that seemed to suggest that
>> monotone is kind of done - no one seems to be keen to continue
>> development, and everyone seems satisfied - was a little disheartening.
>> What is the status of monotone as a project?
> Software - and especially Open Source software - is only insofar
> complete as long as no one complains about something and eventually
> hacks on it.


I'm using monotone for all of my CM needs, and it works fine for me. So
I'm not hacking on it anymore (except for one little fix to support
workspaces containing NFS mounted directories; I still haven't gotten
that in).

> The thing with monotone now is probably that there are just too few
> people using and therefor possibly complaining (enough) about stuff. 

That certainly seems true. One thing keeping more people from using it
is the lack of formal support. Although I'm not clear git and hg have
formal support (meaning you can pay someone for maintenance and/or
training). But I suppose they do have larger communities, which feels
like support, sometimes.

> And even if they'd complain, the alternatives seem - most of the time
> - much more attractive.

Not to me :)

> monotone's code base ages in the meantime, and while it is still very,
> very sophisticated in many areas, it might just scare away younger devs
> because its C++, and not Ruby, or Python, or Java.

Sigh. too true.

> if you, or me or
> anybody else _cares_ about monotone and starts hacking on it again, than
> it will live further, if not, it will die. Its as simple as that.

If it breaks because of some external change (as for example the recent
compiler change in Cygwin), then I will work to fix that.

I'll be very sad if I'm forced to abandon monotone because of changing

On the other hand, almost everyone on comp.lang.ada agrees that I'm an
outlier when it comes to any computer tool (for example, I use Ada and
Emacs unless forced not to :), so my position on things doesn't seem to
be worth much these days ...

-- Stephe

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