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Re: [Pan-users] 0.134 and Beyond

From: Travis
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] 0.134 and Beyond
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:21:41 -0700

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Kerr" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 13:27 PM
Subject: [Pan-users] 0.134 and Beyond

> I've gotten my git account refreshed at and have started
> committing changes for 0.134. :)
> For starters what I'd like to do is get caught up with the other
> libraries and tools that have changed since 0.133 came out.
> The GCC 4.4 compile fixes that Daniel reported and that K Haley
> has fixed in his github repo are an obvious example of that.
> Even more important, IMO, is getting 0.134 ready for GNOME 3.
> Pan 0.133 uses a /lot/ of deprecated glib, gdk, and gtk API calls.
> All those API calls are going away in GNOME 3.
> If Pan isn't ready, it will go away too.
> Other "upkeep" issues in the same vein would be to support newer
> versions of GMime and to use glib 2.14's regular expression API
> instead of requiring PCRE.
> ===
> Looking past 0.134, I'm not sure how much time I'll have for Pan.
> Probably not much.  Unlike the my last pre-0.90 hiatus, I don't
> have a pile of new Pan code waiting in the wings... that hobby
> time has gone to Transmission.
> I'm very happy that K Haley's repo exists, but we also need to
> make official releases once in awhile, since that's what most
> Pan users see.  That requires someone with write access
> to and
> One model would be for me to do this, rolling things "upstream"
> from github to and making old-fashioned tarballs
> once in awhile.
> Another model, which would IMO be better, would be a committee
> of people existed to do these things, and if I were just one
> of many people involved.  I still have a special love for Pan,
> but at this point I've got more love for it than free time.
> Lastly, I'm not sure there's any point in keeping these
> awkward pre-1.0 numbers going any longer.  I doubt anyone
> except Duncan and me -- or maybe just Duncan, come to think
> of it -- remember the remaining goals for 1.0.  If we were
> to name the next release 1.0, that would at least signal to
> the rest of the world that Pan still has some life left in it. :)

I'm  not much of a *nix use (with zero coding skills) so I use the Windows 
version of Pan and like it very much.
I sure would hate to see Pan wilt on the vine.
Travis in Shoreline Washington

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