Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] iDots Template (was: DotGNU 0.1 CD-ROM available from CheapBytes.com)

[Dave Hall]

Dan Kuykendall <address@hidden> wrote:

> Lars Kneschke wrote:
> 
> >>> Dave(one of
> >>>
> >>>leaders) and seek3r(another leader of your project) did jump in our
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>channel
> >>    
> >>
> >>>and tell people shit about us. And do not tell about literati 
> was in your
> >>>channel and did tell shit too. literati is no offical leader of our
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>project.
> >>    
> >>
> >>Hold it just a second. I never got in your channel and talked 
> crap about 
> >>you guys. I was in the channel and was trying to answer 
> questions about 
> >>what phpGW and egroupware are, but I did not denegrade your 
> project or 
> >>speak negatively that I recall. Dave was, but what he says is his
> >>business.
> >>SO if you have an IRC log of me talking crap in your channel, 
> then post 
> >>it. Otherwise I would appreciate a retraction to what you have 
> said I did.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >from #phpgroupware on the day where dave jumped in our channel
> >
> >[21:59:24] < skwashd > Seek3r: milosch has joined EGO
> >[21:59:30] < Seek3r > LOL!!!
> >[21:59:32] < ajmitch > getting undisclosed xmlrpclib errors
> >[21:59:33] < Seek3r > thats fantastic
> >[21:59:41] < skwashd > Seek3r: yeah
> >[21:59:48] < skwashd > group?where? dies
> >[21:59:50] < Seek3r > ajmitch: such as?
> >[22:00:00] < skwashd > so he goes and wrecks another project ;)
> >[22:00:58] < Seek3r > wonder if he will become a mad coder again
> >[22:01:06] < Seek3r > for awhile he was very productive in the 
> project>[22:01:09] < skwashd > Seek3r: he is still mad
> >[22:01:13] < Seek3r > he just isnt all that clean of a coder
> >[22:01:16] < skwashd > and his code is crap
> >[22:01:25] < Seek3r > I was trying to be nice about it
> >[22:01:35] < skwashd > Seek3r: fsck being nice
> >[22:01:39] < Seek3r > lol
> >[22:01:43] < Seek3r > email me your irc log
> >[22:01:46] < Seek3r > would love to read it
> >[22:01:48] < skwashd > i will
> >[22:01:59] < skwashd > still logging :)
> >[22:02:08] < skwashd > the comments after i left were the best
> >[22:02:17] < Seek3r > Imin there now
> >[22:02:20] < Seek3r > how are you logging?
> >[22:02:20] < skwashd > they were too gutless to say it to my face
> >[22:02:23] < skwashd > i know
> >[22:02:32] < skwashd > are no questions here no lies
> >
> >
> >As a leader of your project you tolerated that another leader of your
> >project was doing crap in our  channel. Non of our leaders did 
> that ever in
> >your channel. Since we have our own channel, we were never in the 
> #phpgw>channel again.

I have have been on the #egroupware channel twice since the channel was
taken from me.  Once when invited to discuss cooperation between the
projects, after a request from several EGO devs.  The second time was to
get some straight answers re the alledged copyright violation.

As a side note.  The egroupware channel was mine.  The name was mine. 
The structure concept was mine.  Ummmm .... geez ... how unoriginal can
you be?  

Oh would you like us to provide you with a bot too, so your logs are
publicly available?  Or do you have something to hide?

> >  
> >
> You said that *I* jumped in *your* channel and talked crap. The 
> best you 
> could come up with was me joking in our channel. I DID NOT go into 
> your 
> channel and talk any crap about you guys or your project, and by 
> the 
> time I got in there Dave was done as well so I did not see it 
> first hand.
> 
> Also what I said in our channel wasnt even that bad. One thing to 
> note, 
> when I say "wonder if he will become a mad coder again", Im 
> talking 
> about him being the borg, and using mad as slang for 
> insane/unstoppable... which is why the following line talks about 
> his 
> productivity.
> At this point I hadnt even seen what Dave had been saying in your 
> channel. I did get to read it eventually and I think he basicly 
> embarrased himself by just going overboard, and I have rebuked him 
> to a 
> light degree in some of the other replys to this thread. Its also 
> why I 
> am seperating his comments from me, because I did not say them and 
> I do 
> not agree with how he has handled things. As far as me tolerating 
> what 
> he did... what more am I to do than to disagree with him?

Lets agree to disagree.  I stand by what I have said.  I am not
embarassed.  

I was invited to #ego to discuss the possibility of the 2 projects
working together.  I turned out be a session where I had to listen to
the persecution fanatises of some member of the EGO project.

> 
> But this again goes back to your mistatement about me going into 
> your 
> channel and talking crap. I did not and I have no intention of 
> doing 
> anything like that. Yet you repeated on our mailing list that I 
> had, and 
> even banned me from your channel. I didnt do anything to deserve 
> the 
> lies or the banning.

I also wonder why EGO is so interested in what phpgw is doing when
Reiner has publicly stated: "You think you are so impotent ? (sic?)
Not for our project." [Source
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/phpgroupware-developers/2003-11/msg00040.html
]

If we are not important (Reiner make a note of the spelling), then stop
leeching, stop reading the logs, stop posting to our lists.

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