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Re: [playogg-discuss] Re: [Advocate Play Ogg] Ask YouTube for Ogg suppor

From: Alexandro Colorado
Subject: Re: [playogg-discuss] Re: [Advocate Play Ogg] Ask YouTube for Ogg support!
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:11:59 -0600 (CST)

I would like to point out that most of the html5 / ogg theora posts have been 
labeled as 'answered' however the answer only focus themselves on HTML5. Please 
we need an answer for OGG so dont put 2 or 3 ideas together because you give 
the chance the responder to focus on whatever he likes and dismiss the other 2.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Holmes Wilson <address@hidden> wrote:
Well, if youtube wanted to they could push a button and get 80% of internet
users to switch browsers or install an Ogg Theora plugin for their browser
(by dropping Flash and switching to Ogg).

Or they could make it so that 95% of video available on the internet was
available in Ogg (by encoding to Ogg as one of the many different formats
they support).

They're arguably in bigger position to have an impact than Microsoft is with
IE, and even though it would cost them much more than it would cost
Microsoft to take this step, they're probably much easier to persuade.

On 1/22/10 9:21 PM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:

It should be noted that YouTube accepts
video in Ogg format, which it converts
to flash. The problem isn't
Google/Youtube as much as

In January 2009, I created three clips
in Kino and exported them as Ogg, which
were automatically converted during the
upload to youtube:

I have also provided Ogg background
audio on these pages (works in
firefox/linux - but not reliably on
other platforms..

you should hear a bird call here:

you should hear a frogs here:

Holmes Wilson wrote:

Hi everyone,

This piece of Ogg activism is getting some traffic on and
Twitter right now. If you haven't already, you should jump in:

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People are voting for Google to offer HTML5/Ogg video support on
YouTube, in Google's own product ideas voting space.

YouTube is, obviously, the largest source of videos in the world by
far, so keeping pressure on Google to support web standards and free
formats (over proprietary formats like Flash) is really important.

Google has closed the window on HTML5 feedback, saying that peoples'
voices have been heard. Notably absent is any mention of Ogg. Google
leaving Ogg out of the picture here makes sense, because it would be
very easy for them to offer HTML5/h264 videos that play in Chrome and
Safari, while still excluding free formats and users of free browsers
like Firefox and Icecat.

It also means that, from our point of view anyway, votes for Ogg
Theora support are still welcome. PlayOgg can play an important role
here by stressing free formats.

If you don't already have a Google account, please don't let this
encourage you to make one. You can call YouTube at 650-253-0000 and
make the same request there.

Make your voice heard!

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Holmes Wilson
Campaigns Manager
Free Software Foundation

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