Re: [playogg-discuss] Re: [Advocate Play Ogg] Ask YouTube for Ogg support!

[Amy Wilson]

>> Notably absent is any mention of Ogg. Google
>> leaving Ogg out of the picture here makes sense, because it would be
>> very easy for them to offer HTML5/h264 videos that play in Chrome and
>> Safari, while still excluding free formats and users of free browsers
>> like Firefox and Icecat.

I'm assuming Gnash support would be just as exclusionary? I'm a Chrome
user (it's a hardware thing -- my desktop is too slow to deal with
Firefox and its memory bugs), and by default it's using Gnash for
YouTube playback.  I'm sure that Google could enforce ogg video and
audio whilst still using the flash interface, fulling supporting Gnash.

The Adobe Flash users wouldn't even know! \o/

----- Original message -----
From: "Holmes Wilson" <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Cc: address@hidden, address@hidden
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:55:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [playogg-discuss] Re: [Advocate Play Ogg] Ask YouTube for
Ogg      support!

Well, if youtube wanted to they could push a button and get 80% of 
internet users to switch browsers or install an Ogg Theora plugin for 
their browser (by dropping Flash and switching to Ogg).

Or they could make it so that 95% of video available on the internet was 
available in Ogg (by encoding to Ogg as one of the many different 
formats they support).

They're arguably in bigger position to have an impact than Microsoft is 
with IE, and even though it would cost them much more than it would cost 
Microsoft to take this step, they're probably much easier to persuade.

On 1/22/10 9:21 PM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
> It should be noted that YouTube accepts
> video in Ogg format, which it converts
> to flash. The problem isn't
> Google/Youtube as much as
> Browsers/Plugins.
>
> In January 2009, I created three clips
> in Kino and exported them as Ogg, which
> were automatically converted during the
> upload to youtube:
> <http://ramin.com.au/linux/web-video-formats.shtml>
>
> I have also provided Ogg background
> audio on these pages (works in
> firefox/linux - but not reliably on
> other platforms..
>
> you should hear a bird call here:
> <http://ramin.com.au/annandale/eco-annandale-2010.shtml>
>
> you should hear a frogs here:
> <http://www.ramin.com.au/annandale/whitescreek.shtml>
>
> Marghanita
> Holmes Wilson wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> This piece of Ogg activism is getting some traffic on identi.ca and
>> Twitter right now. If you haven't already, you should jump in:
>>
>> * <http://productideas.appspot.com/#9/e=3d60a&t=ogg>
>>
>> People are voting for Google to offer HTML5/Ogg video support on
>> YouTube, in Google's own product ideas voting space.
>>
>> YouTube is, obviously, the largest source of videos in the world by
>> far, so keeping pressure on Google to support web standards and free
>> formats (over proprietary formats like Flash) is really important.
>>
>> Google has closed the window on HTML5 feedback, saying that peoples'
>> voices have been heard. Notably absent is any mention of Ogg. Google
>> leaving Ogg out of the picture here makes sense, because it would be
>> very easy for them to offer HTML5/h264 videos that play in Chrome and
>> Safari, while still excluding free formats and users of free browsers
>> like Firefox and Icecat.
>>
>> It also means that, from our point of view anyway, votes for Ogg
>> Theora support are still welcome. PlayOgg can play an important role
>> here by stressing free formats.
>>
>> If you don't already have a Google account, please don't let this
>> encourage you to make one. You can call YouTube at 650-253-0000 and
>> make the same request there.
>>
>> Make your voice heard!
>>
>> * <http://productideas.appspot.com/#9/e=3d60a&t=ogg>
>>
>> Holmes Wilson
>> Campaigns Manager
>> Free Software Foundation
>>
>>
>>
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