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Re: Pspp-users Digest discussion of cluster assignment scores
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Mark Levine |
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Re: Pspp-users Digest discussion of cluster assignment scores |
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Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:11:59 -0400 |
Hi folks,
I have to respectfully disagree in part with Fredrik's comments.
I totally agree with him that K-Means does not provide a unique solution.
Repeated clustering to determine the stability of a solution is wise council.
I think, however, that Frederik is off re the relationship between clustering
and discriminant analysis. In discrim, you start with cases that have been
assigned a priori to groups and the analysis seeks to find optimal (linear)
combinations of predictor variables that properly assign cases to the groups.
It's sort of like multiple regression with a nominal dependent variable. Well,
sort of . . .
What Jason has requested (as I have in a previous note) is a vector of scores
that identifies which cases fall into which cluster. One can then look at the
distinguishing characteristics of each cluster by cross-tabbing, AOVing, etc.
the cluster assignment score against other variables.
Without the cluster assignment scores for further analysis, doing K-Means -- or
any kind of clustering procedure, e.g. Q-type factor analysis -- is somewhere
between relatively and totally useless.
At least in my not so humble estimation.
Cheers,
Mark
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Hi Jason,
The feature you're looking for is Discriminant analysis and is
unfortunately not implemented in PSPP. I also have to mention that you
should be vary about using K-means as a clustering technique. Please
rerandomize data and run several times to see if results are similar as the
technique is dependant on how the data i sorted.
Cheers,
--
Fredrik
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