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Re: [Qemu-devel] scrollable window

From: Herbert Poetzl
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] scrollable window
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:32:01 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.6i

On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 11:37:07AM -0500, address@hidden wrote:
> "Jim C. Brown"
> >I personally feel that a scrollable window is not very useful unless your 
> >host
> > resolution is smaller than your guest resolution. Hard to see what the 
> > point is
> Or the same size.  Don't forget, Windows XP will cover up part of the window 
> even when the GTK version switches to 'full screen'.
> And a lot of times, guest resolution will be higher.  Some things just seem 
> to expect 1024x768 or 1280x1024 (or whatever) resolution.
> A scrollable window is just a nice fall back if nothing else is convenient.
> Sometimes, full screen is just too darn inconvenient.  Personally, I can't 
> stand full screen even with VMWare.  I like being able to easily access my 
> desktop when I want to, be able to read some data and type it into the 
> guest, and so on.  (Without having to switch screens back and forth)
> Not everybody in the world uses a 128x1024 screen.  Or even 1024x768.
> Some, such as myself, still use 800x600.  I do it out of necessity.  I have 
> poor eyesight and don't have the spare cash (or desk space!) for a 21 inch 
> monitor.  And LCD monitors tend to have too high a native resolution.  With 
> my current 17" monitor, I simply can't handle anything beyond 800x600.

why not use a virtual desktop of larger size and 
pan the mouse to the current 'view' which can be 800x600
or even less if your bad eyesight requires that ...
(on X you can change that with CTRL-ALT-+/- and the
mouse will be handled properly, including pan ranges)


> So, a scrollable window makes using qemu (or vmware) more convenient.
> Sure, scaling the window so the guest thinks it's 1024x768 (or whatever) 
> when it's really much smaller, is probably a better choice.  As would be the 
> video card providing custom sizes (700x400, or whatever) so XP will think 
> that's what the display really is, and the actual qemu/vmware window 
> wouldn't have to be scrolled, scaled or even full screened.
> But scroll windows are a good 'if nothing else works' kind of situation for 
> most people, and useful for some of us.
> > Anyways, this is a version of gtk2.c which gives the wanted scrolling 
> > feature.
> > I just started on this so expect ease-of-use bugs. :D Should work on 
> > windows
> > as well, but I have not been able to test this myself yet.
> Unfortunately, I can't test it for you on a Windows host.
> A bit of a long story, but at the moment, I'm stuck with a single hard drive 
> and cd burner.  I can't access my second hard drive, which is where qemu and 
> my test OS images are stored.
> Sorry.
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