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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: PATCH, RFC: Generic DMA framework


From: malc
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: PATCH, RFC: Generic DMA framework
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:58:59 +0400 (MSD)

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Blue Swirl wrote:

On 8/14/07, Blue Swirl <address@hidden> wrote:
Would the framework need any changes to support other targets? Comments welcome.

Replying to myself: Yes, changes may be needed. Some of the DMA
controllers move the data outside CPU loop, but that does not make
much difference.

Background: I want to use the framework for at least devices that
Sparc32/64 use. For Sparc32 the reason is that on Sun4c (Sparcstation
1, 2, IPX etc.) there is no IOMMU, but instead the CPU MMU is used for
address translation. The DMA framework makes it possible to remove the
IOMMU without changing the devices.

On Sparc64 an IOMMU needs to be inserted between PCI devices and RAM
without disturbing other targets.

About the devices: Users of PC ISA DMA controller (SB16, FDC) pass the
DMA position parameter to controller. I'm not sure this can be removed
easily. Of course a real DMA controller does not get any position data
from target. For Sparc32/64 I would not need to touch the PC ISA DMA
devices, except maybe for FDC. On Sparc32, the FDC DMA is not even
used. I have to think about this part.

Very long time ago i changed the ISA DMA API to address some of the
critique that Fabrice expressed, i can't remember offhand if that
included removal of explicit position passing or not (the patch is on
some off-line HDD so it's not easy to check whether it's in fact so)

http://www.mail-archive.com/address@hidden/msg06594.html

If needed i can try to locate the patch but the FDC problem still needs
to be addressed by someone.

PCI DMA-like devices (eepro100, pcnet, rtl8139, ide) as well as PXA
use cpu_physical_memory_rw to transfer data (eepro100 also uses
ldl_phys, which looks very suspicious). These could be converted to
generic DMA easily.

OMAP DMA is strange, but fortunately I'm not interested in those devices.



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vale




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