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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mark nic as trusted

From: Jamie Lokier
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mark nic as trusted
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:59 +0000
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)

Dor Laor wrote:
>      As the guest OS's TCP is being used, what do you do about IP address
>      space conflicts?
>      I.e. if NIC #1 is the guest's LAN, and NIC #2 is the vmchannel, how
>      is
>      the vmchannel NIC going to be configured in a way that's guaranteed
>      to
>      avoid breaking the LAN networking, which could be assigned any legal
>      subnet (especially when bridging is used), and on some networks
>      changes from time to time?
>      Perhaps vmchannel will only use IPv6, so it can confidently pick a
>      unique link-local address?
> We plan to pick link local subnets for ipv4.
> It solved all the above questions.

Using an ipv4 link local subnet for the vmchannel may break many
guests.  The guest's LAN may also be configured with a link local
subnet, so routing will get messed up.

When bridged to the host LAN, any Windows guest on a LAN without DHCP
will break, for example; so will current Linux distros.  They use a
link local subnet for the LAN interface, when DHCP is not detected.

(They might do something else when there's a second NIC, though.  That
would just be a further complication - you want the vmchannel NIC to
have no visible effect other than the vmchannel apps working).

In fact, the guest's LAN may regularly _change_ between a link local
subnet, a public IP subnet, and a private scope IP subnet (192.168..),
while the guest is running.

This can happen if the guest is bridged to the host's LAN, and the
host is on a network where DHCP is working sometimes, or where the
host is being moved between networks such as a laptop host.

> w.r.t the option of using virtio nic, there is advantage of using
> any other nic since this way there is no requirement to install
> virtio driver on windows or on other older Linux/other OSs.

I agree.  Simple vmchannel monitoring apps may port easily to OSes
which don't have a virtio driver, or even run without any changes if
they're simple enough and statically linked.

-- Jamie

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