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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked
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Gleb Natapov |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked |
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Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:46:08 +0200 |
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:29:57PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/14/2012 12:26 PM, Wen Congyang wrote:
> > >> If so, is this channel visible to guest userspace? If the channle is
> > >> visible to guest
> > >> userspace, the program running in userspace may write the same message
> > >> to the channel.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Surely there's some kind of access control on channels.
> >
> > The virtio-serial depends on more things than touching the hypervisor. So I
> > think touching
> > the hypervisor is more reliable than using virtio-serial device, and it is
> > very simple and
> > easy to use.
> >
> > If we pass something from guest userspace to host, we can use
> > virtio-serial. But If we pass
> > something from guest kernelspace to host, I still prefer to touch the
> > hypervisor.
>
> There's no argument that it's easier. My concern is different, we're
> adding more and more stuff to the hypervisor because it's easier, which
> bloats it. Every time we do it we add to compatibility and security
> problems.
>
> The panic notification is *really* simple, so I don't expect it to cause
> a lot of problems. But still, if it's possible not to change the
> hypervisor, we must make an effort in that direction.
>
One more point against using virtio-serial is that it will be likely
compiled as a module which means panic during early boot will not be
reported.
--
Gleb.
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Daniel P. Berrange, 2012/03/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked,
Gleb Natapov <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Gleb Natapov, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Gleb Natapov, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Eric Northup, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/15
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Gleb Natapov, 2012/03/15