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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qemu v16 19/19] spapr_pci/spapr_pci_vfio: Suppor


From: David Gibson
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH qemu v16 19/19] spapr_pci/spapr_pci_vfio: Support Dynamic DMA Windows (DDW)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:42:09 +1000
User-agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27)

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 02:11:48PM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Alexey Kardashevskiy <address@hidden> wrote:
> > This adds support for Dynamic DMA Windows (DDW) option defined by
> > the SPAPR specification which allows to have additional DMA window(s)
> >
> > The "ddw" property is enabled by default on a PHB but for compatibility
> > the pseries-2.5 machine (TODO: update version) and older disable it.
> > This also creates a single DMA window for the older machines to
> > maintain backward migration.
> >
> > This implements DDW for PHB with emulated and VFIO devices. The host
> > kernel support is required. The advertised IOMMU page sizes are 4K and
> > 64K; 16M pages are supported but not advertised by default, in order to
> > enable them, the user has to specify "pgsz" property for PHB and
> > enable huge pages for RAM.
> >
> > The existing linux guests try creating one additional huge DMA window
> > with 64K or 16MB pages and map the entire guest RAM to. If succeeded,
> > the guest switches to dma_direct_ops and never calls TCE hypercalls
> > (H_PUT_TCE,...) again. This enables VFIO devices to use the entire RAM
> > and not waste time on map/unmap later. This adds a "dma64_win_addr"
> > property which is a bus address for the 64bit window and by default
> > set to 0x800.0000.0000.0000 as this is what the modern POWER8 hardware
> > uses and this allows having emulated and VFIO devices on the same bus.
> >
> > This adds 4 RTAS handlers:
> > * ibm,query-pe-dma-window
> > * ibm,create-pe-dma-window
> > * ibm,remove-pe-dma-window
> > * ibm,reset-pe-dma-window
> > These are registered from type_init() callback.
> >
> > These RTAS handlers are implemented in a separate file to avoid polluting
> > spapr_iommu.c with PCI.
> >
> > This changes sPAPRPHBState::dma_liobn to an array to allow 2 LIOBNs.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Alexey Kardashevskiy <address@hidden>
> > ---
> > Changes:
> > v16:
> > * s/dma_liobn/dma_liobn[SPAPR_PCI_DMA_MAX_WINDOWS]/
> > * s/SPAPR_PCI_LIOBN()/dma_liobn[]/
> >
> > v15:
> > * moved page mask filtering to PHB realize(), use "-mempath" to know
> > if there are huge pages
> > * fixed error reporting in RTAS handlers
> > * max window size accounts now hotpluggable memory boundaries
> > ---
> >  hw/ppc/Makefile.objs        |   1 +
> >  hw/ppc/spapr.c              |   5 +
> >  hw/ppc/spapr_pci.c          |  75 +++++++++---
> >  hw/ppc/spapr_rtas_ddw.c     | 292 
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/hw/pci-host/spapr.h |   8 +-
> >  include/hw/ppc/spapr.h      |  16 ++-
> >  trace-events                |   4 +
> >  7 files changed, 381 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
> >  create mode 100644 hw/ppc/spapr_rtas_ddw.c
> >
> > diff --git a/hw/ppc/Makefile.objs b/hw/ppc/Makefile.objs
> > index c1ffc77..986b36f 100644
> > --- a/hw/ppc/Makefile.objs
> > +++ b/hw/ppc/Makefile.objs
> > @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_PSERIES) += spapr_pci.o spapr_rtc.o 
> > spapr_drc.o spapr_rng.o
> >  ifeq ($(CONFIG_PCI)$(CONFIG_PSERIES)$(CONFIG_LINUX), yyy)
> >  obj-y += spapr_pci_vfio.o
> >  endif
> > +obj-$(CONFIG_PSERIES) += spapr_rtas_ddw.o
> >  # PowerPC 4xx boards
> >  obj-y += ppc405_boards.o ppc4xx_devs.o ppc405_uc.o ppc440_bamboo.o
> >  obj-y += ppc4xx_pci.o
> > diff --git a/hw/ppc/spapr.c b/hw/ppc/spapr.c
> > index b69995e..0206609 100644
> > --- a/hw/ppc/spapr.c
> > +++ b/hw/ppc/spapr.c
> > @@ -2365,6 +2365,11 @@ DEFINE_SPAPR_MACHINE(2_6, "2.6", true);
> >          .driver   = "spapr-vlan", \
> >          .property = "use-rx-buffer-pools", \
> >          .value    = "off", \
> > +    }, \
> > +    {\
> > +        .driver   = TYPE_SPAPR_PCI_HOST_BRIDGE,\
> > +        .property = "ddw",\
> > +        .value    = stringify(off),\
> >      },
> >
> >  static void spapr_machine_2_5_instance_options(MachineState *machine)
> > diff --git a/hw/ppc/spapr_pci.c b/hw/ppc/spapr_pci.c
> > index 51e7d56..aa414f2 100644
> > --- a/hw/ppc/spapr_pci.c
> > +++ b/hw/ppc/spapr_pci.c
> > @@ -35,6 +35,7 @@
> >  #include "hw/ppc/spapr.h"
> >  #include "hw/pci-host/spapr.h"
> >  #include "exec/address-spaces.h"
> > +#include "exec/ram_addr.h"
> >  #include <libfdt.h>
> >  #include "trace.h"
> >  #include "qemu/error-report.h"
> > @@ -44,6 +45,7 @@
> >  #include "hw/pci/pci_bus.h"
> >  #include "hw/ppc/spapr_drc.h"
> >  #include "sysemu/device_tree.h"
> > +#include "sysemu/hostmem.h"
> >
> >  #include "hw/vfio/vfio.h"
> >
> > @@ -1305,11 +1307,14 @@ static void spapr_phb_realize(DeviceState *dev, 
> > Error **errp)
> >      PCIBus *bus;
> >      uint64_t msi_window_size = 4096;
> >      sPAPRTCETable *tcet;
> > +    const unsigned windows_supported =
> > +        sphb->ddw_enabled ? SPAPR_PCI_DMA_MAX_WINDOWS : 1;
> >
> >      if (sphb->index != (uint32_t)-1) {
> >          hwaddr windows_base;
> >
> > -        if ((sphb->buid != (uint64_t)-1) || (sphb->dma_liobn != 
> > (uint32_t)-1)
> > +        if ((sphb->buid != (uint64_t)-1) || (sphb->dma_liobn[0] != 
> > (uint32_t)-1)
> > +            || ((sphb->dma_liobn[1] != (uint32_t)-1) && (windows_supported 
> > > 1))
> >              || (sphb->mem_win_addr != (hwaddr)-1)
> >              || (sphb->io_win_addr != (hwaddr)-1)) {
> >              error_setg(errp, "Either \"index\" or other parameters must"
> > @@ -1324,7 +1329,9 @@ static void spapr_phb_realize(DeviceState *dev, Error 
> > **errp)
> >          }
> >
> >          sphb->buid = SPAPR_PCI_BASE_BUID + sphb->index;
> > -        sphb->dma_liobn = SPAPR_PCI_LIOBN(sphb->index, 0);
> > +        for (i = 0; i < windows_supported; ++i) {
> > +            sphb->dma_liobn[i] = SPAPR_PCI_LIOBN(sphb->index, i);
> > +        }
> >
> >          windows_base = SPAPR_PCI_WINDOW_BASE
> >              + sphb->index * SPAPR_PCI_WINDOW_SPACING;
> > @@ -1337,8 +1344,9 @@ static void spapr_phb_realize(DeviceState *dev, Error 
> > **errp)
> >          return;
> >      }
> >
> > -    if (sphb->dma_liobn == (uint32_t)-1) {
> > -        error_setg(errp, "LIOBN not specified for PHB");
> > +    if ((sphb->dma_liobn[0] == (uint32_t)-1) ||
> > +        ((sphb->dma_liobn[1] == (uint32_t)-1) && (windows_supported > 1))) 
> > {
> > +        error_setg(errp, "LIOBN(s) not specified for PHB");
> >          return;
> >      }
> >
> > @@ -1456,16 +1464,18 @@ static void spapr_phb_realize(DeviceState *dev, 
> > Error **errp)
> >          }
> >      }
> >
> > -    tcet = spapr_tce_new_table(DEVICE(sphb), sphb->dma_liobn);
> > -    if (!tcet) {
> > -        error_setg(errp, "Unable to create TCE table for %s",
> > -                   sphb->dtbusname);
> > -        return;
> > +    /* DMA setup */
> > +    for (i = 0; i < windows_supported; ++i) {
> > +        tcet = spapr_tce_new_table(DEVICE(sphb), sphb->dma_liobn[i]);
> > +        if (!tcet) {
> > +            error_setg(errp, "Creating window#%d failed for %s",
> > +                       i, sphb->dtbusname);
> > +            return;
> > +        }
> > +        memory_region_add_subregion_overlap(&sphb->iommu_root, 0,
> > +                                            spapr_tce_get_iommu(tcet), 0);
> >      }
> >
> > -    memory_region_add_subregion_overlap(&sphb->iommu_root, 0,
> > -                                        spapr_tce_get_iommu(tcet), 0);
> > -
> >      sphb->msi = g_hash_table_new_full(g_int_hash, g_int_equal, g_free, 
> > g_free);
> >  }
> >
> > @@ -1482,13 +1492,19 @@ static int spapr_phb_children_reset(Object *child, 
> > void *opaque)
> >
> >  void spapr_phb_dma_reset(sPAPRPHBState *sphb)
> >  {
> > -    sPAPRTCETable *tcet = spapr_tce_find_by_liobn(sphb->dma_liobn);
> > +    int i;
> > +    sPAPRTCETable *tcet;
> >
> > -    if (tcet && tcet->enabled) {
> > -        spapr_tce_table_disable(tcet);
> > +    for (i = 0; i < SPAPR_PCI_DMA_MAX_WINDOWS; ++i) {
> > +        tcet = spapr_tce_find_by_liobn(sphb->dma_liobn[i]);
> > +
> > +        if (tcet && tcet->enabled) {
> > +            spapr_tce_table_disable(tcet);
> > +        }
> >      }
> >
> >      /* Register default 32bit DMA window */
> > +    tcet = spapr_tce_find_by_liobn(sphb->dma_liobn[0]);
> >      spapr_tce_table_enable(tcet, SPAPR_TCE_PAGE_SHIFT, sphb->dma_win_addr,
> >                             sphb->dma_win_size >> SPAPR_TCE_PAGE_SHIFT);
> >  }
> > @@ -1510,7 +1526,8 @@ static void spapr_phb_reset(DeviceState *qdev)
> >  static Property spapr_phb_properties[] = {
> >      DEFINE_PROP_UINT32("index", sPAPRPHBState, index, -1),
> >      DEFINE_PROP_UINT64("buid", sPAPRPHBState, buid, -1),
> > -    DEFINE_PROP_UINT32("liobn", sPAPRPHBState, dma_liobn, -1),
> > +    DEFINE_PROP_UINT32("liobn", sPAPRPHBState, dma_liobn[0], -1),
> > +    DEFINE_PROP_UINT32("liobn64", sPAPRPHBState, dma_liobn[1], -1),
> >      DEFINE_PROP_UINT64("mem_win_addr", sPAPRPHBState, mem_win_addr, -1),
> >      DEFINE_PROP_UINT64("mem_win_size", sPAPRPHBState, mem_win_size,
> >                         SPAPR_PCI_MMIO_WIN_SIZE),
> > @@ -1522,6 +1539,11 @@ static Property spapr_phb_properties[] = {
> >      /* Default DMA window is 0..1GB */
> >      DEFINE_PROP_UINT64("dma_win_addr", sPAPRPHBState, dma_win_addr, 0),
> >      DEFINE_PROP_UINT64("dma_win_size", sPAPRPHBState, dma_win_size, 
> > 0x40000000),
> > +    DEFINE_PROP_UINT64("dma64_win_addr", sPAPRPHBState, dma64_window_addr,
> > +                       0x800000000000000ULL),
> > +    DEFINE_PROP_BOOL("ddw", sPAPRPHBState, ddw_enabled, true),
> > +    DEFINE_PROP_UINT64("pgsz", sPAPRPHBState, page_size_mask,
> > +                       (1ULL << 12) | (1ULL << 16)),
> >      DEFINE_PROP_END_OF_LIST(),
> >  };
> >
> > @@ -1598,7 +1620,7 @@ static const VMStateDescription vmstate_spapr_pci = {
> >      .post_load = spapr_pci_post_load,
> >      .fields = (VMStateField[]) {
> >          VMSTATE_UINT64_EQUAL(buid, sPAPRPHBState),
> > -        VMSTATE_UINT32_EQUAL(dma_liobn, sPAPRPHBState),
> > +        VMSTATE_UNUSED(4), /* dma_liobn */
> >          VMSTATE_UINT64_EQUAL(mem_win_addr, sPAPRPHBState),
> >          VMSTATE_UINT64_EQUAL(mem_win_size, sPAPRPHBState),
> >          VMSTATE_UINT64_EQUAL(io_win_addr, sPAPRPHBState),
> > @@ -1775,6 +1797,15 @@ int spapr_populate_pci_dt(sPAPRPHBState *phb,
> >      uint32_t interrupt_map_mask[] = {
> >          cpu_to_be32(b_ddddd(-1)|b_fff(0)), 0x0, 0x0, cpu_to_be32(-1)};
> >      uint32_t interrupt_map[PCI_SLOT_MAX * PCI_NUM_PINS][7];
> > +    uint32_t ddw_applicable[] = {
> > +        cpu_to_be32(RTAS_IBM_QUERY_PE_DMA_WINDOW),
> > +        cpu_to_be32(RTAS_IBM_CREATE_PE_DMA_WINDOW),
> > +        cpu_to_be32(RTAS_IBM_REMOVE_PE_DMA_WINDOW)
> > +    };
> > +    uint32_t ddw_extensions[] = {
> > +        cpu_to_be32(1),
> > +        cpu_to_be32(RTAS_IBM_RESET_PE_DMA_WINDOW)
> > +    };
> >      sPAPRTCETable *tcet;
> >      PCIBus *bus = PCI_HOST_BRIDGE(phb)->bus;
> >      sPAPRFDT s_fdt;
> > @@ -1799,6 +1830,14 @@ int spapr_populate_pci_dt(sPAPRPHBState *phb,
> >      _FDT(fdt_setprop_cell(fdt, bus_off, "ibm,pci-config-space-type", 0x1));
> >      _FDT(fdt_setprop_cell(fdt, bus_off, "ibm,pe-total-#msi", XICS_IRQS));
> >
> > +    /* Dynamic DMA window */
> > +    if (phb->ddw_enabled) {
> > +        _FDT(fdt_setprop(fdt, bus_off, "ibm,ddw-applicable", 
> > &ddw_applicable,
> > +                         sizeof(ddw_applicable)));
> > +        _FDT(fdt_setprop(fdt, bus_off, "ibm,ddw-extensions",
> > +                         &ddw_extensions, sizeof(ddw_extensions)));
> > +    }
> > +
> >      /* Build the interrupt-map, this must matches what is done
> >       * in pci_spapr_map_irq
> >       */
> > @@ -1822,7 +1861,7 @@ int spapr_populate_pci_dt(sPAPRPHBState *phb,
> >      _FDT(fdt_setprop(fdt, bus_off, "interrupt-map", &interrupt_map,
> >                       sizeof(interrupt_map)));
> >
> > -    tcet = spapr_tce_find_by_liobn(phb->dma_liobn);
> > +    tcet = spapr_tce_find_by_liobn(phb->dma_liobn[0]);
> >      if (!tcet) {
> >          return -1;
> >      }
> > diff --git a/hw/ppc/spapr_rtas_ddw.c b/hw/ppc/spapr_rtas_ddw.c
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 0000000..b4e0686
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/hw/ppc/spapr_rtas_ddw.c
> > @@ -0,0 +1,292 @@
> > +/*
> > + * QEMU sPAPR Dynamic DMA windows support
> > + *
> > + * Copyright (c) 2015 Alexey Kardashevskiy, IBM Corporation.
> > + *
> > + *  This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
> > + *  it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
> > + *  the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License,
> > + *  or (at your option) any later version.
> > + *
> > + *  This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
> > + *  but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
> > + *  MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
> > + *  GNU General Public License for more details.
> > + *
> > + *  You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
> > + *  along with this program; if not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
> > + */
> > +
> > +#include "qemu/osdep.h"
> > +#include "qemu/error-report.h"
> > +#include "hw/ppc/spapr.h"
> > +#include "hw/pci-host/spapr.h"
> > +#include "trace.h"
> > +
> > +static int spapr_phb_get_active_win_num_cb(Object *child, void *opaque)
> > +{
> > +    sPAPRTCETable *tcet;
> > +
> > +    tcet = (sPAPRTCETable *) object_dynamic_cast(child, 
> > TYPE_SPAPR_TCE_TABLE);
> > +    if (tcet && tcet->enabled) {
> > +        ++*(unsigned *)opaque;
> > +    }
> > +    return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static unsigned spapr_phb_get_active_win_num(sPAPRPHBState *sphb)
> > +{
> > +    unsigned ret = 0;
> > +
> > +    object_child_foreach(OBJECT(sphb), spapr_phb_get_active_win_num_cb, 
> > &ret);
> > +
> > +    return ret;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static int spapr_phb_get_free_liobn_cb(Object *child, void *opaque)
> > +{
> > +    sPAPRTCETable *tcet;
> > +
> > +    tcet = (sPAPRTCETable *) object_dynamic_cast(child, 
> > TYPE_SPAPR_TCE_TABLE);
> > +    if (tcet && !tcet->enabled) {
> > +        *(uint32_t *)opaque = tcet->liobn;
> > +        return 1;
> > +    }
> > +    return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static unsigned spapr_phb_get_free_liobn(sPAPRPHBState *sphb)
> > +{
> > +    uint32_t liobn = 0;
> > +
> > +    object_child_foreach(OBJECT(sphb), spapr_phb_get_free_liobn_cb, 
> > &liobn);
> > +
> > +    return liobn;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static uint32_t spapr_page_mask_to_query_mask(uint64_t page_mask)
> > +{
> > +    int i;
> > +    uint32_t mask = 0;
> > +    const struct { int shift; uint32_t mask; } masks[] = {
> > +        { 12, RTAS_DDW_PGSIZE_4K },
> > +        { 16, RTAS_DDW_PGSIZE_64K },
> > +        { 24, RTAS_DDW_PGSIZE_16M },
> > +        { 25, RTAS_DDW_PGSIZE_32M },
> > +        { 26, RTAS_DDW_PGSIZE_64M },
> > +        { 27, RTAS_DDW_PGSIZE_128M },
> > +        { 28, RTAS_DDW_PGSIZE_256M },
> > +        { 34, RTAS_DDW_PGSIZE_16G },
> > +    };
> > +
> > +    for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(masks); ++i) {
> > +        if (page_mask & (1ULL << masks[i].shift)) {
> > +            mask |= masks[i].mask;
> > +        }
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    return mask;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static void rtas_ibm_query_pe_dma_window(PowerPCCPU *cpu,
> > +                                         sPAPRMachineState *spapr,
> > +                                         uint32_t token, uint32_t nargs,
> > +                                         target_ulong args,
> > +                                         uint32_t nret, target_ulong rets)
> > +{
> > +    sPAPRPHBState *sphb;
> > +    uint64_t buid, max_window_size;
> > +    uint32_t avail, addr, pgmask = 0;
> > +    MachineState *machine = MACHINE(spapr);
> > +
> > +    if ((nargs != 3) || (nret != 5)) {
> > +        goto param_error_exit;
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    buid = ((uint64_t)rtas_ld(args, 1) << 32) | rtas_ld(args, 2);
> > +    addr = rtas_ld(args, 0);
> > +    sphb = spapr_pci_find_phb(spapr, buid);
> > +    if (!sphb || !sphb->ddw_enabled) {
> > +        goto param_error_exit;
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    /* Translate page mask to LoPAPR format */
> > +    pgmask = spapr_page_mask_to_query_mask(sphb->page_size_mask);
> > +
> > +    /*
> > +     * This is "Largest contiguous block of TCEs allocated specifically
> > +     * for (that is, are reserved for) this PE".
> > +     * Return the maximum number as maximum supported RAM size was in 4K 
> > pages.
> > +     */
> > +    if (machine->ram_size == machine->maxram_size) {
> > +        max_window_size = machine->ram_size >> SPAPR_TCE_PAGE_SHIFT;
> > +    } else {
> > +        MemoryHotplugState *hpms = &spapr->hotplug_memory;
> > +
> > +        max_window_size = hpms->base + memory_region_size(&hpms->mr);
> > +    }
> 
> Guess SPAPR_TCE_PAGE_SHIFT right shift should be applied to
> max_window_size in both the instances (if and else) ?
> 
> > +
> > +    avail = SPAPR_PCI_DMA_MAX_WINDOWS - spapr_phb_get_active_win_num(sphb);
> > +
> > +    rtas_st(rets, 0, RTAS_OUT_SUCCESS);
> > +    rtas_st(rets, 1, avail);
> > +    rtas_st(rets, 2, max_window_size);
> > +    rtas_st(rets, 3, pgmask);
> > +    rtas_st(rets, 4, 0); /* DMA migration mask, not supported */
> > +
> > +    trace_spapr_iommu_ddw_query(buid, addr, avail, max_window_size, 
> > pgmask);
> > +    return;
> > +
> > +param_error_exit:
> > +    rtas_st(rets, 0, RTAS_OUT_PARAM_ERROR);
> > +}
> > +
> > +static void rtas_ibm_create_pe_dma_window(PowerPCCPU *cpu,
> > +                                          sPAPRMachineState *spapr,
> > +                                          uint32_t token, uint32_t nargs,
> > +                                          target_ulong args,
> > +                                          uint32_t nret, target_ulong rets)
> > +{
> > +    sPAPRPHBState *sphb;
> > +    sPAPRTCETable *tcet = NULL;
> > +    uint32_t addr, page_shift, window_shift, liobn;
> > +    uint64_t buid;
> > +
> > +    if ((nargs != 5) || (nret != 4)) {
> > +        goto param_error_exit;
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    buid = ((uint64_t)rtas_ld(args, 1) << 32) | rtas_ld(args, 2);
> > +    addr = rtas_ld(args, 0);
> > +    sphb = spapr_pci_find_phb(spapr, buid);
> > +    if (!sphb || !sphb->ddw_enabled) {
> > +        goto param_error_exit;
> > +    }
> > +
> > +    page_shift = rtas_ld(args, 3);
> > +    window_shift = rtas_ld(args, 4);
> 
> Kernel has a bug due to which wrong window_shift gets returned here. I
> have posted possible fix here:
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/621497/
> 
> I have tried to work around this issue in QEMU too
> https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2016-04/msg00226.html
> 
> But the above work around involves changing the memory representation
> in DT. Hence I feel until the guest kernel changes are available, a
> simpler work around would be to discard the window_shift value above
> and recalculate the right value as below:
> 
> if (machine->ram_size == machine->maxram_size) {
>     max_window_size = machine->ram_size;
> } else {
>      MemoryHotplugState *hpms = &spapr->hotplug_memory;
>      max_window_size = hpms->base + memory_region_size(&hpms->mr);
> }
> window_shift = max_window_size >> SPAPR_TCE_PAGE_SHIFT;
> 
> and create DDW based on this calculated window_shift value. Does that
> sound reasonable ?

No, it really doesn't.  Silently ignoring the parameters to an RTAS
call, and substituting what we think the guest meant sounds like a
terrible idea.

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                                | _way_ _around_!
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