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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap
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Nir Soffer |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices |
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Thu, 26 Jul 2018 19:46:54 +0300 |
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:10 PM Eric Blake <address@hidden> wrote:
> On 07/26/2018 10:33 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>
> >
> > As far as I know, the comment you quoted is accurate for BLKDISCARD and
> > BLKZEROOUT, but not for the fallocate() flags.
> >
>
> I sure wish the man pages were more explicit on what guarantees each
> flag offers.
>
> >> Hmm - that thread also mentions FALLOC_FL_NO_HIDE_STALE, which is a new
> flag
> >> not present/documented on Fedora 28. I wonder if it helps, too.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE in contrast implements write_zeroes without unmap.
> >>
> >> I thought the opposite: FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE guarantees that you read
> back
> >> 0, using whatever is most efficient under the hood (in the case of block
> >> devices, unmapping that reliably reads back as zero is favored).
> >
> > See the code I quoted above, FALLOC_FL_ZERO_RANGE calls
> > blkdev_issue_zeroout() with BLKDEV_ZERO_NOUNMAP internally.
>
> Having to resort to reading the kernel code to learn what the guarantees
> are is annoying (it's nice that GPL guarantees that we CAN do that, but
> it means the man pages could use some TLC so that we don't have to).
> Especially since the kernel code has changed over time.
>
> But your paste of current kernel code is rather hard to argue against.
>
I don't think we should depend on undocumented kernel code.
Nir
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Kevin Wolf, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Eric Blake, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Nir Soffer, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Kevin Wolf, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Eric Blake, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Kevin Wolf, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Eric Blake, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices,
Nir Soffer <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Kevin Wolf, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Nir Soffer, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Eric Blake, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Kevin Wolf, 2018/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Eric Blake, 2018/07/26
Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices, Nir Soffer, 2018/07/26