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Re: [qemu-s390x] [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] s390x/ccs: add ccw-test

From: Halil Pasic
Subject: Re: [qemu-s390x] [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] s390x/ccs: add ccw-testdev emulated device
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 17:35:26 +0100
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On 12/07/2017 01:57 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 13:38:22 +0100
> Halil Pasic <address@hidden> wrote:
>> On 12/07/2017 12:59 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 07:33:19 +0100
>>> Thomas Huth <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> On 08.11.2017 17:54, Halil Pasic wrote:  
>>>>> +static ccw_cb_t get_ccw_cb(CcwTestDevOpMode op_mode)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +    switch (op_mode) {
>>>>> +    case OP_MODE_FIB:
>>>>> +        return ccw_testdev_ccw_cb_mode_fib;
>>>>> +    case OP_MODE_NOP:
>>>>> +    default:
>>>>> +        return ccw_testdev_ccw_cb_mode_nop;    
>>>> Do we really want to use "nop" for unknown modes? Or should there rather
>>>> be a ccw_testdev_ccw_cb_mode_error instead, too?  
>>> I like the idea of an error mode.  
>> What would be the benefit of the error mode? The idea is that
>> the tester in the guest has a certain set of tests implemented
>> each requiring certain behavior from the device. This behavior
>> is represented by the mode.
>> If the device does not support the mode, the set of tests can't
>> be executed meaningfully. The only option is either ignore them
>> (and preferably report them as ignored), or fail them (not soo
>> good in my opinion).
> Failing it sounds superior to me: You really want to know if something
> does not work as expected.

When doing unit tests it's usual to differentiate between:
* success, which ideally should give you guarantees about the unit
not misbehaving in production if client code respects the contract
* failure, which ideally should pretty much narrow down what
went wrong
* ignored, either due to user explicitly disabled a test, or
a precondition for executing the was not met.

If you think traffic light its green, red and yellow respectively.

For instance qemu-iotests also skips tests where the environment
does not provide a preconditions necessary to execute it.

Of course a quality gate for a release should really be the suite
executed successfully (green), and not some tests were skipped.

A quality gate for let's day sending a series to the list could
also be defined less rigorous. 

>> The in guest tester should simply iterate over it test sets
>> and try to select the mode the test set (or suite in other
>> terminology) requires. If selecting the mode fails, than
>> means you are working with an old ccw-testdev.
>>> Related: Should the device have a mechanism to report the supported
>>> modes?
>> I don't see the value. See above. I think the set mode operation
>> reporting failure is sufficient.
>> But if you have something in mind, please do tell. I'm open.
> If we keep guest/host in lockstep, we probably don't need this. But if
> not, self-reporting looks like a reasonable feature as it gives more
> flexibility.
I would prefer adding this should the need arise instead of
speculatively. Would that be fine for you.

BTW if interface stability is a concern maybe making the device
experimental (at least for a while) is a good idea.


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