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[Savannah-hackers] Re: Fighting BitKeeper: There is no such thing as a F


From: Mathieu Roy
Subject: [Savannah-hackers] Re: Fighting BitKeeper: There is no such thing as a Free Lunch
Date: 19 Nov 2002 19:21:42 +0100
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Shlomi Fish <address@hidden> said:

> On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Jaime E. Villate wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 01:35:11PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > > At the moment the situation in the free software world is that two
> > > alternatives with public hosting exist:
> > >
> > > 1. CVS - old, reliable but a pain to work with. Fully Free.
> > >
> > > 2. BitKeeper - very good, and a joy to work with. Distributed under a very
> > > restrictive license.
> > BitKeeper is not free software, therefore it is not an alternative.
> >
> 
> I think you erroneously believed that "use only free software" idealism is
> shared by all free software developers out there. That is far from being
> the case. It is not the case for me and it is not the case for most of the
> FS developers I personally know. I know a few free software bigots but at
> least one is also using BitKeeper.

I do not think I can collaborate with someone that consider people at
GNU as "bigots". But this is not the first time I read this from you. 
At http://www.advogato.org/person/shlomif/diary.html?start=93 you said
being "afraid to make use of the GNU Savannah Hosting [...] because of
their fanatism" 

At http://www.advogato.org/person/shlomif/diary.html?start=33
you also give your point of view on Savannah - really
interesting. I'll will not comment this; I already done this.

You're free to think that taking free software as a political stand is
bigotism, fanatism (I personally do not think you really understand
the meanings of those words) but as good "Human Engineer" (an
expression you seem to appreciate - personally, I do not consider
humans as engines) you'll probably understand the fact that any
discussion here are related to political matters too, and why it's
possible to say here that "BitKeeper [...] is not an alternative" for us.

> Some Savannah users are just looking for hosting for thier projects
> and don't care too much about ideals. And some (like me) will
> greatly appreciate something better than CVS.

"don't care [...] about ideals" -> "something better than CVS". 

How do you link this two phrases?
This confusion seems particulary significative.


-- 
Mathieu Roy
 
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