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Re: [Savannah-hackers] Re: Help wanted (sysadmin work)

From: Yaroslav Klyukin
Subject: Re: [Savannah-hackers] Re: Help wanted (sysadmin work)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:13:21 -0400
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Rudy Gevaert wrote:

This way everything is easy:
- Count all software packages on CD.
- Get the percentage of GNU software.
- If GNU software constitutes over 50% of the OS, then it has all rights to be mentioned in the name of the OS.

Does it make sense?

I don't think so.  The primary reason of calling the system GNU/Linux
Well, frankly I don't think so either.
is that people have to know about the ethical reasons why the system
exists.  We are trying to make a completely free (as in freedom)
operating system.  Calling the system "Linux" does not reflect the
ideas of the Free Software movement.  Calling our movement something
else, has even worse effect.

I agree. What I am saying is that it's not "the system", it a number of different systems. Each time someone decides he wants to create a linux OS - he creates _his_own_ OS. Therefore why care about somebody calling his own product (which is a compilation of any kind of software) any name he wants?

Nowadays anybody can create his own OS using any software and call it whatever for his own profit, as long as he does not break any license agreements of the software used.

My point is that a complete OS is something, that you have on a media, which you can boot from and install. Take whatever as an example: BeOS, OS/2, Windows, etc.

Also, calling the system only GNU/Linux if it has over 50% GNU
software would not work. Because the amount of non-GNU software
increases faster than the amount of GNU software.

Please note that when helping Savannah, you act as a spokesmen for the
Free Software foundation, thus it must be clear that you will have to
use the language that the FSF uses and must educate other users about
the goals of the FS movement.

I need to figure out for myself first.
I understnad the importance of the movement, and it's value, but I don't get why asking others to call something in your name, instead of having your own stuff.

Technicly, I think that calling an OS GNU/Linux is as wrong as calling it Linux. In both cases it does not convey the true meaning of what appears to be somebody's compilation of an existing software. I think that the word "distribution" is the right word for it, but maybe there are better words.

Removing the word "Linux" will have the same effect, as adding "GNU", but the first option is the only right way to resolve the problem in my opinion.

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