[gnu.org #359140] Re: [Savannah-help-public] Redirecting bug-gnu-emacs to emacsbugs

[Joshua Ginsberg via RT]

Howdy --

I apologize for the delay in response, but I can certainly help you move
forward with this.

Rather than muck with an already creaky and hack-laden Mailman instance,
I'd prefer to do this on the MTA side -- I can create a router to
conditionally reroute traffic for bug-gnu-emacs elsewhere -- I just need
to know the envelope and client parameters.

-jag

> address@hidden - Sat Mar 29 15:57:34 2008]:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We're trying to use a Debbugs to manage bug reports for the
> Emacs project.  For various reason, it is necessary to reuse the
> address@hidden email address for bug submission as well as the
> bug-gnu-emacs mailing-list for distribution of the discussions about
> bugs, so we need to insert the Debbugs in between the
> address@hidden address and the bug-gnu-emacs Mailman list.
> 
> Stephen J. Turnbull says that a clean way to do it is to add a special
> Mailman Handler for the bug-gnu-emacs list which would redirect to
> Debbugs all the email that is not coming from Debbugs.  Can you help
> us
> out here?
> 
> 
> >     Stefan
> 
> 
> >>>>> "Sylvain" == Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> writes:
> 
> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:01:48AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> >> > >>>>> "Sylvain" == Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> writes:
> >> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >>
> >> > >> >> All email sent to address@hidden should not go to
> Mailman,
> >> > >> >> but instead it should be forwarded to
> >> > >> >> address@hidden
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Then all mail currently sent from Emacsbugs to the
> >> > >> >> address@hidden mailing list should be
> distributed to
> >> > >> >> the members of the bug-gnu-emacs mailing list.
> >>
> >> > >> > Well, there's no magic. The only working
> >> > >> > "address@hidden" adress is "bug-gnu-
> address@hidden",
> >> > >> > so if you want to make that one point to somewhere else, we
> need to
> >> > >> > rename the Mailman mailing list.
> >>
> >> I don't think this is true.  AFAIK Mailman knows nothing and cares
> >> less about the envelope recipient.
> >>
> >> So you should currently have an alias (sendmail-style, and I'm
> kinda
> >> guessing here, depends on Mailman version and suchlike)
> >>
> >> bug-gnu-emacs:             "|/var/lib/mailman/bin/mailman post 
> >> bug-gnu-emacs"
> >>
> >> Change that to
> >>
> >> bug-gnu-emacs:             address@hidden
> >> bug-gnu-emacs-really:      "|/var/lib/mailman/bin/mailman post bug-gnu-
> emacs"
> >>
> >> Obviously you need the right configuration of the debbugs program
> at
> >> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, pointing back to "bug-gnu-emacs-
> really".
> >> Season nomenclature to taste (-recipients made line-length 82
> columns ;-).
> >>
> >> Note that you now have three addresses where spam can get into the
> >> pipeline.  I don't know how these "internal" addresses leak out,
> but
> >> they sometimes do.  So you may wish to restrict the envelope sender
> to
> >> bug-gnu-emacs-really to be "emacsbugs".  You probably also want to
> >> ensure that traffic to "submit" always goes via the "bug-gnu-emacs"
> >> alias, or you need to make "address@hidden" be
> an
> >> alias of bug-gnu-emacs in the Mailman interface.
> 
> > Hi,
> 
> > We don't have root access to the lists.gnu.org computer, so this
> kind
> > of thing is outside our reach. Please contact address@hidden to
> see
> > if they can do something.
> 
> > Consider that lists.gnu.org hosts thousands of lists - this is
> > mass-hosting. There isn't a series of hand-made aliases, but a set
> of
> > custom Exim rules that deliver all @gnu.org and @nongnu.org to
> Mailman
> > or other places (such as fencepost) dependending on various factors.
> 
> > --
> > Sylvain
> 
> 
> 
-- 
Joshua Ginsberg <address@hidden>
Free Software Foundation - Senior Systems Administrator