Re: [gnu.org #359140] Re: [Savannah-help-public] Redirecting bug-gnu-emacs to emacsbugs

[Stefan Monnier via RT]

> I apologize for the delay in response, but I can certainly help you move
> forward with this.

> Rather than muck with an already creaky and hack-laden Mailman instance,
> I'd prefer to do this on the MTA side -- I can create a router to
> conditionally reroute traffic for bug-gnu-emacs elsewhere -- I just need
> to know the envelope and client parameters.

I hoped Don or Stephen would know what to tell you, because I don't.
The quoted thread already says what I know:

1 - Mail that is sent to address@hidden should be redirected to
    address@hidden (and not distributed to the
    recipients of the address@hidden mailing-list).
2 - Mail coming from the address@hidden to
    address@hidden should be distributed to the recipients of the
    address@hidden list.

I don't know what envelope parameters you need to know, nor what "client"
you have in mind.  If you want to know the "envelope-from" parameter for
email coming from the address@hidden mailing-list, it
seems to be "address@hidden".


        Stefan


>> address@hidden - Sat Mar 29 15:57:34 2008]:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We're trying to use a Debbugs to manage bug reports for the
>> Emacs project.  For various reason, it is necessary to reuse the
>> address@hidden email address for bug submission as well as the
>> bug-gnu-emacs mailing-list for distribution of the discussions about
>> bugs, so we need to insert the Debbugs in between the
>> address@hidden address and the bug-gnu-emacs Mailman list.
>> 
>> Stephen J. Turnbull says that a clean way to do it is to add a special
>> Mailman Handler for the bug-gnu-emacs list which would redirect to
>> Debbugs all the email that is not coming from Debbugs.  Can you help
>> us
>> out here?
>> 
>> 
>> >     Stefan
>> 
>> 
>> >>>>> "Sylvain" == Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> writes:
>> 
>> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:01:48AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> >> > >>>>> "Sylvain" == Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> writes:
>> >> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > >> >> All email sent to address@hidden should not go to
>> Mailman,
>> >> > >> >> but instead it should be forwarded to
>> >> > >> >> address@hidden
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> Then all mail currently sent from Emacsbugs to the
>> >> > >> >> address@hidden mailing list should be
>> distributed to
>> >> > >> >> the members of the bug-gnu-emacs mailing list.
>> >>
>> >> > >> > Well, there's no magic. The only working
>> >> > >> > "address@hidden" adress is "bug-gnu-
>> address@hidden",
>> >> > >> > so if you want to make that one point to somewhere else, we
>> need to
>> >> > >> > rename the Mailman mailing list.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think this is true.  AFAIK Mailman knows nothing and cares
>> >> less about the envelope recipient.
>> >>
>> >> So you should currently have an alias (sendmail-style, and I'm
>> kinda
>> >> guessing here, depends on Mailman version and suchlike)
>> >>
>> >> bug-gnu-emacs:            "|/var/lib/mailman/bin/mailman post 
>> >> bug-gnu-emacs"
>> >>
>> >> Change that to
>> >>
>> >> bug-gnu-emacs:            address@hidden
>> >> bug-gnu-emacs-really:     "|/var/lib/mailman/bin/mailman post bug-gnu-
>> emacs"
>> >>
>> >> Obviously you need the right configuration of the debbugs program
>> at
>> >> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, pointing back to "bug-gnu-emacs-
>> really".
>> >> Season nomenclature to taste (-recipients made line-length 82
>> columns ;-).
>> >>
>> >> Note that you now have three addresses where spam can get into the
>> >> pipeline.  I don't know how these "internal" addresses leak out,
>> but
>> >> they sometimes do.  So you may wish to restrict the envelope sender
>> to
>> >> bug-gnu-emacs-really to be "emacsbugs".  You probably also want to
>> >> ensure that traffic to "submit" always goes via the "bug-gnu-emacs"
>> >> alias, or you need to make "address@hidden" be
>> an
>> >> alias of bug-gnu-emacs in the Mailman interface.
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> 
>> > We don't have root access to the lists.gnu.org computer, so this
>> kind
>> > of thing is outside our reach. Please contact address@hidden to
>> see
>> > if they can do something.
>> 
>> > Consider that lists.gnu.org hosts thousands of lists - this is
>> > mass-hosting. There isn't a series of hand-made aliases, but a set
>> of
>> > custom Exim rules that deliver all @gnu.org and @nongnu.org to
>> Mailman
>> > or other places (such as fencepost) dependending on various factors.
>> 
>> > --
>> > Sylvain
>> 
>> 
>> 
> -- 
> Joshua Ginsberg <address@hidden>
> Free Software Foundation - Senior Systems Administrator