Re: [Wesnoth-dev] About the ulfserker

[Richard Kettering]

> As such, I'm going to propose we revert its stats to what they were  
> like in 0.8.11.
>
> Any objections?

YES.  Huge objections from me and Elvish Pillager.

I think those "representatives" have no idea what they are talking  
about.  They say "the squeakiest wheel gets the oil."  Please don't  
fall for that.
These people are trying to force the conception they previously had of  
the unit onto what it has changed into.  They're trying to make it be  
something it is not, and they are pouting when it doesn't work out  
right.

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NOT ONLY THAT - Dragonking said the following - "After playing cvs, I  
think that removing berserk at defence make them perfect.. but this is  
my personal opinion."
http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php? 
t=5255&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15


If the ulfzerker has no special ability active on defense, then nearly  
a full half of the time he acts normally for defensive purposes, rather  
than having a ability which is either a severe detriment or severe  
advantage depending on the situation.
Even if the ulfserker is a little bit "worse" in multiplayer, which I  
highly question, it is vastly better in single-player games now than it  
was before.

> It seems that in 0.9.1, the Ulfserker is seen as underpowered in the  
> multiplayer community. Community representatives (such as Soliton,  
> Noy, and Dragonking) tell me that there is a general consensus among  
> high-level players that the Ulfserker in 0.8.11 (with the 'beserk'  
> ability taking effect on both offense and defense) was both the most  
> 'balanced' and the most fun the Ulfserker has been in multiplayer. It  
> was powerful, but not overpowered, and added alot of fun diversity to  
> the game.

The fundamental thing to remember about the "berserk active on defense"  
thing is that it is a two-edged sword.  It greatly multiplies the  
current state of the unit - if the unit is at full health, it is very  
dangerous to attack, if it is at low health, it is in great danger,  
since it cannot luck out of being killed by an enemy melee attacker.


The other thing to remember is that Ulfzerkers, with berserk active on  
defense, can be killed at full health by many units, even on their  
chosen ground.  Most units of higher levels will eat them for lunch,  
and many of the same level can do so as well.  This is the primary  
problem with the "old way".

This is not a problem in very short deathmatch multi games, but in  
anything else, it is a severe problem.
Please don't reintroduce it.