Re: Provide style file for babel support for Brazilian

[Gustavo Barros]

Hi Arash,

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 at 19:39, Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org> wrote:

> > "brazilian.el" and "portuguese.el" add symbols for four convenience 
> > macros which are defined by `babel' in `portuges.ldf', namely `\ord', 
> > `\orda', `\ro' and `\ra'.  While I had correctly reported they do not 
> > receive arguments, I started playing with them now (the style files 
> > made 
> > me remember they exist), and they do however gobble the following 
> > space. 
> > Hence they should be inserted with trailing empty braces, or `nil' 
> > argument in `TeX-add-symbols'.
>
> This is not the general approach in AUCTeX.  If you want to have 
> braces
> after (certain) macros, please use the variables `TeX-insert-braces' 
> or
> `TeX-insert-braces-alist':

Ah, I was thinking strictly in terms of `TeX-add-symbols'.  I guess we 
are already fine then, sorry for the noise on this.

> With the current definitions, the macros don't respect any font 
> families
> around them when used; I think this is a misbehaviour.

Agreed.

> I don't think that AUCTeX styles should judge what is supported and 
> what
> not.  We just cater for things a package provides, and if Koma throws 
> an
> error on \rm, bad for Koma users, but not all users rely on Koma.

That's fair and fine.  And it makes sense.  I just mentioned Koma to 
document the outdated state of `\rm', nothing much to take from that. 
Of course AUCTeX has no business in catering for this peculiar (and 
quite aggressive) way of Koma to warn users about it.

> I think the best solution is to contact the babel-brazilian developers
> and talk with them about a proper solution.  Do you want to take this?
> I see this already[1]

Yes, indeed I have reported this to babel after I wrote here. Let's see 
what it comes out of it.

Thanks again!

Best regards,
Gustavo.