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Re: Autoconf "languages" (was: AC_FOREACH public?)

From: Keith MARSHALL
Subject: Re: Autoconf "languages" (was: AC_FOREACH public?)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:09:45 +0100

Ralf Wildenhues wrote, quoting me:
>> Why would anyone want to do so anyway?  If I want to write a shell
>> script, other than as a configure script, it's *much* more logical
>> and convenient for me to just write directly as such, in the shell's
>> own native language.
> Those who don't use M4SH_INIT are doomed to reinvent it, painfully.

Oh yeah?  And M4SH_INIT is sooooo well documented, that everyone will
rush to use it!

Granted, these considerations will extend beyond autoconf, into the
other autotools, but the point I was trying to make is that, for
everyday shell scripting needs, using m4 to generate the script is
just more trouble than it's worth.  Consider the pdfroff script in

That was written from scratch, with nary a sniff of m4, and it runs
portably, on a wide variety of platforms.


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