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RE: spam


From: Dan Kegel
Subject: RE: spam
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:54:52 -0700

IMHO the mailing list should reject messages from nonsubscribers.
I thought it already did.

As Justin points out, this is standard operating practice these days.
Accepting posts from strangers just encourages the spammers.
And I'm tired of the 'rape sex' and 'animal action' subject lines and
animations
of people f**king landing in my mailbox... anything to stop
spam is all right by me.
- Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Kirby
To: address@hidden
Sent: 5/14/2002 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: spam


I recently subscribed to this list, because of some issues I was
having... (figured it out without have to post I think)...

But I would like to interject my $0.02 in this...

I am subscribed to a TON of lists, all of them require you to subscribe
in order to post. This is generally considered a core feature of lists.
One notable exception is the cvshome.org lists, and I am no longer
subscribed to those.

I am sorry, but "Have hot sex tonight" and "Viagra overnight" are just
unacceptable and diminish the quality of a community. If the list
manager program can not place the simple requirement of a subscription
in order to post, then it needs to be thrown out and a new one put in
place.

And no I should not be required to place a bazillion filters in my email
program in order to not get this cruft.


just my $0.02
Justin

On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 17:59, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> [Sorry for offtopic, but since Christoph wants to discuss this in the
> list, I don't want readers to see only his replies, but not mine]
> 
> > proski> Install a spam filter.  I use SpamAssassin.  You can
download it from
> > proski> http://spamassassin.org/
> > 
> > Not everybody has the possibility to install a filter (i am not the
system 
> > administrator)
> 
> SpamAssassin can be installed with user permissions and used from
> procmail.  Read the documentation.
> 
> My configuration: fetchcmail gets mail and uses procmail as MDA (mail
> delivery agent).  procmail sorts some mailing lists first - I don't
want
> it to remove spam from the lists I administer, because this would hide
my
> failures.  It also passes e-mail from known people - if a spammer
> impersonates them or they get a virus, I want to know that.
> 
> Then SpamAssassin checks for spam.  The spam goes to a separate folder
for
> review and reporting to spamcop.net.  Then my (old, pre-SA) filters
are
> used.  It's useful to separate HTML e-mail and e-mail with no subject
from
> mailing lists - such posts are usually clueless and don't deserve to
be
> archived, not to mention MS Word attachments.  Finally, the messages
are
> put to the mailing list folders, and the remainder goes to the inbox.
> 
> > IMO it would help a lot, if only people were allowed to send
messages to
> > address@hidden, who subscribed to the list. No full time
administrator
> > is needed, in fact it would be easy to implement.
> 
> It's already implemented in Mailman, it's just turned off.  However,
it 
> would be wrong to reject such messages withot review, and that takes
time.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Pavel Roskin
> 
> 
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