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Re: [avr-gcc-list] New User: C++ Debugging

From: Marko Panger
Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] New User: C++ Debugging
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:50:12 +0200

I think Atmel had choosen COFF because of IAR

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From: "Joerg Wunsch" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] New User: C++ Debugging

> James Dabbs <address@hidden> wrote:
> > First, Avarice crashed as soon as a typed "target cisco
> > localhost 4242" from GDB.
> target remote localhost:4242
> > Is there a compliance map of what JEDEC S/W versions are
> > required to work with Avarice?
> Maybe Ted can answer this.  Perhaps you need the latest CVS version
> for it.  So far, i haven't been successful with avarice neither, but i
> haven't tried too hard (i. e. i didn't try CVS again).
> > (PS.  Why doesn't Atmel just support elf?
> I don't know why they've been chosing that archaic COFF in the first
> place.  I thas been obsolete by about a decade when they made their
> decision.  Probably because Windoze also uses (PE-)COFF.  I would have
> understood their choice if they had had a long history and in-depth
> knowledge of COFF formats, but they've done so many abominations with
> COFF compared to the historic COFF versions, it's almost unbearable
> (and not on purpose, but mostly since they didn't knew better, and
> didn't research historic COFF usage very much before adding some
> feature).
> They keep telling that they do want to support ELF some day, and i'm
> sure they've seen the dead end COFF is in particular for supporting
> different languages than C.  However, i've got the feeling that if
> this once will happen, they might chose DWARF debugging format.  This
> is not what avr-gcc is currently using (it uses stabs debugging), but
> i've seen the GNU toolchain successfully using DWARF2 on other
> architectures (namely, on FreeBSD 5), so it can't be that hard to use
> it in the AVR arch as well.
> --
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