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>From unknown Mon Sep 12 12:42:27 -0500 2005
From: unknown
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:42:27 -0500
Subject: Graphics does not work under the TeXmacs 1.0.5 interface
Message-ID: <address@hidden>

Under linux with TeXmacs, the graphics doesn't appear at all. Just the message 
indicating the type is shown.
I even followed the instructions on the FAQ and changed the AXIOMsys to axiom 
and even sman. But if I do that though HyperDoc appears, I have to press return 
several times(may be upto 7 times) before the answer appears on the texmacs 
interface. Just blank lines with the red axiom prompt keep on appearing.

>From unknown Mon Oct 10 13:49:38 -0500 2005
From: unknown
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:49:38 -0500
Subject: Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the TeXmacs interface
Message-ID: <address@hidden>

Is there a possibility of using the hyperdoc type in the commands in the 
TeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)? I tried to replace the 
tm_axiom program with the one that launches axiom or sman  instead of AXIOMsys 
but doing that causes me to press the enter key several times to get the 
commands accepted and that is really annoying.
I am using a Fedora-3. The problem seems to be in the sman or axiom as when I 
launch it separately, the same thing occurs--ie, I have to press the enter key 
several times to get the command accepted. I have used axiom built from the 
April 2005 sources as well as that from the September 2005 sources and the 
problem continues.

Also can the axiom help/reference be lanched from within the TeXmacs as it can 
be done using MuPAD from TeXmacs.

>From unknown Mon Oct 10 13:55:10 -0500 2005
From: unknown
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:55:10 -0500
Subject: RE:Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the TeXmacs interface
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
In-Reply-To: <address@hidden>

I also face the same problem but on Mandrake Linux. Accessing online help would 
definately be wonderful idea. I know that Hyperdoc exists for this purpose but 
the way HyperDoc does this needs a lot of improvement to be useful.

>From root Mon Oct 10 13:57:15 -0500 2005
From: root
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:57:15 -0500
Subject: [AxiomDownload] Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in        the TeXmacs 
interface
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
In-Reply-To: <address@hidden>
        (address@hidden)

AXIOMsys does direct reads from its terminal.

axiom is a script that launches sman (superman).
sman starts hyperdoc, AXIOMsys, and 
clef which is a command-line completion program.

I don't know but I suspect "clef" is getting in the way.
Try changing the call to 'axiom' to use 'axiom -noclef'
and see if the behavior changes.

Tim


>From unknown Mon Oct 10 14:02:32 -0500 2005
From: unknown
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:02:32 -0500
Subject: HyperDoc dows not work with numpad turned on
Message-ID: <address@hidden>

HyperDoc does not take any input  if the NmPd key is on. I use KDE/3.3 on a 
Fedora-3. Is this peculiar to me or is a bug/feature of the HyperDoc :)
Anyway I think its more convinient to enter numbers from the Numeric Kepad

>From unknown Tue Oct 11 02:21:42 -0500 2005
From: unknown
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:21:42 -0500
Subject: TeXmacs
Message-ID: <address@hidden>

The problem with starting axiom (or sman) instead of AXIOMsys from TeXmacs is 
that it writes the prompt twice instead of once when it starts. One can modify 
tm_axiom.c to wait for two prompts at start-up time. This was done in the old 
TeXmacs interface with commercial Axiom.

Is it possible to get rid of the first prompt? Having prompts not preceeding 
user input is very annoying.

Andrey


>From BillPage Tue Oct 11 09:36:59 -0500 2005
From: Bill Page
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:36:59 -0500
Subject: nicely formatted output
Message-ID: <address@hidden>

Unknown wrote:

> Is there a possibility of using the hyperdoc type in the commands
> in the TeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)?

Axiom 'hyperdoc' is **not** required to get nicely formatted output
in TeXmacs. AXIOMsys generates Tex/LaTeX output that is processed
by TeXmacs.

Could you please describe what effect you would like to achieve
in TeXmacs? In what way is the current TeXmacs output not nicely
formatted?

>From Varun Tue Oct 11 14:09:26 -0500 2005
From: Varun
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:09:26 -0500
Subject: AxiomDownload Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the TeXmacs interface
Message-ID: <address@hidden>

I've already tried using axiom -noclef but to no help.
As per Andrey:
One can modify tm_axiom.c to wait for two prompts at start-up time. This was 
done in the old TeXmacs interface with commercial Axiom.

Can someone tell how this can be done or change the tm_axiom and distribute the 
code.

Any help is welcome.

Varun.

>From Varun Tue Oct 11 14:30:56 -0500 2005
From: Varun
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:30:56 -0500
Subject: RE: Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the TeXmacs interface
Message-ID: <address@hidden>

Bill Page wrote:
>nicely formatted output --Bill Page, Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:36:59 -0500 >reply
>Unknown wrote: 
>Is there a possibility of using the hyperdoc type in the commands in >the 
>TeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)?
>
>Axiom hyperdoc is not required to get nicely formatted output in >TeXmacs. 
>AXIOMsys generates Tex/LaTeX output that is processed by >TeXmacs.
What I intended was: Can I use the HyperDoc while still working under TeXmacs 
and get nicely formatted output.
Sorry for my not being clear.

>Could you please describe what effect you would like to achieve in >TeXmacs? 
>In what way is the current TeXmacs output not nicely >formatted?

There are a lot of things that can be improved in TeXmacs. First of all an 
online reference would certainely help a lot (those who are Turbo C IDE fans 
would know this)--one just presses some hot key and gets more information on 
the command he wishes to use and is not so sure about. He can get some examples 
on how to use the system, just fill in some entries and get the command output 
without having to learn hundreds of functions. This would be most beneficial to 
users new to axiom and to those who have just started to use Computer Algebra 
Systems. Not only that, this I think would save time of those users who are 
just using the 'interactive' axiom and not programming with it.

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