Re: [Axiom-developer] 20170401 sources

[Camm Maguire]

Greetings, and thanks!  Looks like we have a winner!  You can check here
if desired for the autobuilder results as they come in:

https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=axiom

Tim Daly <address@hidden> writes:

> The latest push (1cb0661) contains the wildcard name fix.
> )help member? works but is stored as memberq.help
>
> Tim
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Camm Maguire <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>     Greetings!  Thanks so much for looking at this!
>    
>     Take care,
>    
>     Tim Daly <address@hidden> writes:
>    
>     > Camm,
>     >
>     > Axiom uses a program called 'tanglec' (in books/tanglec.c) to extract
>     > 'chunks' from the source pamphlet files. The tanglec program will look 
> for
>     >
>     >    \begin{chunk}{somename}
>     >         source code goes here
>     >    \end{chunk}
>     >
>     > so given a filename and a chunk name it will extract the chunk to stdout
>     > which are, by default, extracted to the equivalent filename, e.g.
>     >
>     >    tanglec bookvol10.3.pamphlet retractable?.help >retractable?.help
>     >
>     > so the solution for output is to rename the chunk names not to use 
> wildcards.
>     > Thus I need to change it to read:
>     >
>     >    \begin{chunk}{retractableq.help}
>     >
>     > When the lisp code is trying to find the help file named 
> 'retractable?.help
>     > I need to quietly mangle it to 'retractableq' and look for 
> retractableq.help
>     >
>     > This seems a simple but, as we both know, there is no such thing as a
>     > simple job. Nevertheless, I'm working on the fix.
>     >
>     > Tim
>     >
>     > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 1:11 AM, William Sit <address@hidden> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Camm, thanks for the explanation, which is way beyond my 
> understanding. I get it that pathnames are more complicated than I realized.
>     >
>     >     William
>     >
>     >     William Sit
>     >     Professor Emeritus
>     >     Department of Mathematics
>     >     The City College of The City University of New York
>     >     New York, NY 10031
>     >     homepage: wsit.ccny.cuny.edu
>     >
>     >     ________________________________________
>     >     From: Camm Maguire <address@hidden>
>     >     Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:24 AM
>     >     To: William Sit
>     >     Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] 20170401 sources
>     >
>     >     Greetings!
>     >
>     >     William Sit <address@hidden> writes:
>     >
>     >     > Hi, Camm:
>     >     >
>     >     > Isn't it true to use %3F for "?" on path and url names for html? 
> (other punctuations like space %20 are commonly used as well)? If true
>     then
>     >     there is no need to change function names ending with "?".
>     >     >
>     >
>     >     Exactly what freedom a lisp implementation has in defining wild
>     >     pathnames is an interesting question.  #'open must fail on a
>     >     wild-pathname.  clisp and sbcl (and gcl) both recognize '*' and '?' 
> as
>     >     pathname wildcards.  If '?' is defined as non-wild, then of course
>     >     #'directory will not expand it in producing its output.
>     >
>     >     Take care,
>     >
>     >     
> =============================================================================
>     >     
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >     ---------------------------
>     >     Function WILD-PATHNAME-P
>     >
>     >     Syntax:
>     >
>     >     wild-pathname-p pathname &optional field-key => generalized-boolean
>     >
>     >     Arguments and Values:
>     >
>     >     pathname---a pathname designator.
>     >
>     >     Field-key---one of :host, :device :directory, :name, :type, 
> :version, or nil.
>     >
>     >     generalized-boolean---a generalized boolean.
>     >
>     >     Description:
>     >
>     >     wild-pathname-p tests pathname for the presence of wildcard 
> components.
>     >
>     >     If pathname is a pathname (as returned by pathname) it represents 
> the name used to open the file. This may be, but is not required to be,
>     the
>     >     actual name of the file.
>     >
>     >     If field-key is not supplied or nil, wild-pathname-p returns true 
> if pathname has any wildcard components, nil if pathname has none. If
>     >     field-key
>     >     is non-nil, wild-pathname-p returns true if the indicated component 
> of pathname is a wildcard, nil if the component is not a wildcard.
>     >
>     >     Examples:
>     >
>     >      ;;;The following examples are not portable.  They are written to 
> run
>     >      ;;;with particular file systems and particular wildcard 
> conventions.
>     >      ;;;Other implementations will behave differently.  These examples 
> are
>     >      ;;;intended to be illustrative, not to be prescriptive.
>     >
>     >      (wild-pathname-p (make-pathname :name :wild)) =>  true
>     >      (wild-pathname-p (make-pathname :name :wild) :name) =>  true
>     >      (wild-pathname-p (make-pathname :name :wild) :type) =>  false
>     >      (wild-pathname-p (pathname "s:>foo>**>")) =>  true ;Lispm
>     >      (wild-pathname-p (pathname :name "F*O")) =>  true ;Most places
>     >
>     >     Affected By: None.
>     >
>     >     Exceptional Situations:
>     >
>     >     If pathname is not a pathname, a string, or a stream associated 
> with a file an error of type type-error is signaled.
>     >
>     >     See Also:
>     >
>     >     pathname, logical-pathname, Section 20.1 (File System Concepts), 
> Section 19.1.2 (Pathnames as Filenames)
>     >
>     >     Notes:
>     >
>     >     Not all implementations support wildcards in all fields. See 
> Section 19.2.2.2.2 (:WILD as a Component Value) and Section 19.2.2.3
>     (Restrictions
>     >     on
>     >     Wildcard Pathnames).
>     >
>     >     
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >     ---------------------------
>     >     
> =============================================================================
>     >
>     >     > William
>     >     >
>     >     > William Sit
>     >     > Professor Emeritus
>     >     > Department of Mathematics
>     >     > The City College of The City University of New York
>     >     > New York, NY 10031
>     >     > homepage: wsit.ccny.cuny.edu
>     >     >
>     >     > ________________________________________
>     >     > From: Axiom-developer <address@hidden> on behalf of Camm Maguire 
> <address@hidden>
>     >     > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 12:53 PM
>     >     > To: Tim Daly
>     >     > Cc: axiom-dev
>     >     > Subject: [Axiom-developer] 20170401 sources
>     >     >
>     >     > Hi Tim!  Congratulations on releasing a new set of sources!
>     >     >
>     >     > There is an issue with your '.help files from lisp' mechanism in
>     >     > tangle.lisp.  You end up trying to open files like
>     >     > "..../retractable?.help" which is not ansi, as the pathname is 
> wild.
>     >     > I'm building a patched version with '?' -> 'q' on help file 
> writing,
>     >     > but I do not immediately see where to update the help system on
>     >     > reading.
>     >     >
>     >     > Perhaps you have a suggestion?
>     >     >
>     >     > Take care, and thanks again for all your axiom work!
>     >     > --
>     >     > Camm Maguire                                        address@hidden
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>     >     Camm Maguire                                        address@hidden
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>     Camm Maguire                                        address@hidden
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