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Re: bison'd files don't compile under Microsoft VC++

From: David Gluss
Subject: Re: bison'd files don't compile under Microsoft VC++
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:40:29 -0800

I don't have an HP near me today, so I can't go
find the particular defines to quote to you.
I also don't see any point in continuing to argue
about this.
I just wanted to use the MS compiler to compile
C, as most of us have been doing for years.
To say that MS doesn't adhere to "usual practice"
is, to be charitable, incorrect.  They are the definition
of usual practice.  I don't at all agree with their practice,
but that's not the point!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans Aberg" <address@hidden>
To: "David Gluss" <address@hidden>
Cc: <address@hidden>; <address@hidden>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: bison'd files don't compile under Microsoft VC++

> At 09:18 -0800 2002/02/14, David Gluss wrote:
> >You're espousing essentially the philosophy of HP...where programs
> >have to have special defines to compile with usual practice, as opposed
> >to what the standards bodies have defined.
> I find it hard to follow your reasoning as you don't quote what you are
> referring to.
> The C++ standard ISO+IEC+14882-1998 has existed for a couple of years now,
> and it defines these things.
> Thus only the programs that do not adhere to usual practice (like
> your MS compiler for competition limiting reasons) would need special
> defines.
> BTW, have you checked with the guys who wrote the your compiler why it
> not have namespaces so long after the C++ standard was issued? Have you
> checked that you haven't turned on some option disabling namespaces?
> >Please recall that I'm not begging you to go support MS in a new
> >I just wish you guys hadn't broken an existing working one.
> Note that as far as C++ goes, the parser has always been broken (since the
> dynamic stack was introduced) in the sense that classes with non-trivial
> constructors will not be treated properly (i.e., may cause run time
>   Hans Aberg
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