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Re: [Bug-ddrescue] SMART, reallocation, and retries


From: Christian Franke
Subject: Re: [Bug-ddrescue] SMART, reallocation, and retries
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:49:39 +0200
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Franc Zabkar wrote:

May I suggest that ddrescue disable SMART by default, if it does not already do so.

The SMART DISABLE command does not necessarily disable internal monitoring and sector reallocation. It only disables the SMART related ATA commands.


Also I believe that there may be ATA commands that allow retries to be disabled at the drive level, at least in earlier versions of the standard.

 Read DMA Without Retries
 Read Sectors Without Retry
 Set Features Disable Retry

All the above commands were declared obsolete in ATA-5 (~2000). Do you have any evidence that these commands are still supported by a reasonable number of recent (ATA-8 ACS and later) drive models?

Ddrescue currently builds and works out of the box on most POSIX platforms (including Windows thanks to Cygwin). It does not require platform specific hacks.

Adding things like disable SMART or specific ATA READ commands would introduce the full "there is no standard ATA/SCSI pass-through functionality (and the existing non-standard functions do not work with all controllers)" problem to ddrescue. This makes e.g. smartmontools rather complex and prevents that Linux hdparm could be easily ported.



Perhaps Error Recovery Control (ERC) and the ATA Streaming feature set might be useful in the above regard.

Try "smartctl -l scterc,R,W /dev/ice" before using ddrescue. Many recent disks support ERC/TLER, even normal "desktop" (non-RAID) series.

Regards,
Christian




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