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[Bug-gnupedia] Decision Making


From: Dan Geiser
Subject: [Bug-gnupedia] Decision Making
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:10:20 -0500

Hello, All,
Sorry about getting everyone's panties in a bunch with that last posting. I didn't realize it was a Pay-Per-Click site.

I'd heard about the first Nupedia sometime back and when I saw the first posting about Gnupedia on Slashdot I joined the mailing list that day. Later I saw Jimmy Wales' post retracting the original announcement and thought everything had been cleared up but then the discussion on this list about Gnupedia continued. I didn't know if anyone had seen it or not because their didn't seem to be any real acknowledgment of it.

I do have a couple of basic comments/questions though:

1) Why are the decisions that are being made about what happens next being decided by Jimmy Wales and Richard Stallman? Shouldn't those involved in this upswell have a say as well?

2) What is an encyclopedia? Where does that word come from? That's mostly a rhetorical question but I thought I'd ask it.

Unfortunately I have to entrust this question to Encarta (an encyclopedia) but assuming their accuracy..."The term encyclopedia comes from the Greek words enkyklios paideia, meaning “comprehensive education” and originally signifying instruction in all branches of knowledge, or a comprehensive education in a specific subject."

Cambridge.org defines encyclopedia "a book or set of books containing many articles arranged in alphabetical order which deal either with the whole of human knowledge or with a particular part of it"

Dictionary.com includes "Word History: The word encyclopedia, which to us usually means a large set of books, descends from a phrase that involved coming to grips with the contents of such books. The Greek phrase is enkuklios paideia, made up of enkuklios, “cyclical, periodic, ordinary,” and paideia, “education,” and meaning “general education, literally the arts and sciences that a person should study to be liberally educated.” Copyists of Latin manuscripts took this phrase to be the Greek word enkuklopaedia, with the same meaning, and this spurious Greek word became the New Latin word encyclopaedia, coming into English with the sense “general course of instruction,” first recorded in 1531. In New Latin the word was chosen as the title of a reference work covering all knowledge. The first such use in English is recorded in 1644."

To me the word Gnupedia is a misnomer. If -pedia means education then Gnupedia would be education related to things Gnu. Perhaps it would be best to decide what exactly it is you wish to create, e.g. body of general information, and then from there decided what you are going to call this 'body of general information' and then further decide how you are going to go about creating this 'body of information'.

The range of discussions on this list seem to be getting into the heart of the matter, i.e. XML schema, before some basics tenets of the project have even been solidified.

Just some thoughts.  No trolling intended.

Take Care!
Dan Geiser <address@hidden>
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