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Re: Crashes at C-x 1

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Crashes at C-x 1
Date: 01 Nov 2001 18:28:25 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1

>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:

    Eli> On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Glyn Millington wrote:

    >> "Eli Zaretskii" <address@hidden> writes:
    >> > Do you have a core file?  If so, could you send the results
    >> > of the "bt" command when you debug it with GDB?
    >> No core-dump file that I can see anywhere - does that mean it
    >> isn't a "crash"?  Forgive me, I'm new to this.

    Eli> It might mean that Emacs exits (though it shouldn't have).

    Eli> Let me turn the table and ask you why did you say it crashed?
    Eli> Did you see anything abnormal when that happened, or did you
    Eli> assume it crashed because it exited when you didn't expect it
    Eli> to?

    Eli> Crashes are normally accompanied by system messages like
    Eli> "Program terminated abnormally.  Core dumped."  or something
    Eli> like that.

It could also mean that the user is using a desktop system where
a) ulimit -c 0 is effective since the average desktop user is not
supposed to know what to do with core files.
b) his Emacs is started from a cute little icon on stderr messages
disappear into some black hole.

In fact, you have to fathom that the majority of systems nowadays are
set up like that per default.

David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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