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Re: some emacs-21.1.1 problems

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: some emacs-21.1.1 problems
Date: 22 Nov 2001 21:24:35 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1

>>>>> "RMS" == Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:

 ?>     If your Cygwin applications do not understand normal Windows
 ?>     paths, they are broken. I suggest you throw them out and get
 ?>     some new tools.

 RMS> Much better, you should throw out Windows and install the GNU system
 RMS> (perhaps the GNU/Linux variant).  Windows is non-free software; it
 RMS> does not respect your freedom; adding free software such as Cygwin and
 RMS> Emacs on top of Windows cannot change that basic fact.  You can't have
 RMS> freedom while using Windows.

 RMS> Most of our discussion here concerns narrow technical issues--someone
 RMS> is using GNU Emacs and the point is to make it work correctly.  Most
 RMS> of the time, these technical issues are so narrow that the more
 RMS> important social and ethical issues don't arise.  But we must not
 RMS> forget them.  Windows is bad, and I don't just mean technically.  If
 RMS> you're still using Windows, the most important fix for you to make is
 RMS> to get rid of it.  Either throw the Windows out of your computer, or
 RMS> throw your computer out of the window!

Amen, brother, amen, amen.  But let's not forget that this is the
church of Emacs, not the church of GNU.  Emacs descends to the sinners
and evildoers and sits among their tables and preaches the worth of
the true way while eating with the unworthy ones.  And while it is
doing that, it better not have the morsels of the unsavory food there
drooping distastefully from its beard.  Fails to make a good

Emacs is a haven unto those forced into Windows.  From the above, BTW,
I get the impression that the first thing you should throw out, free
or not, is Cygwin.  Emacs can be compiled with Mingw32, and that tries
a whole lot less to make Windows something it isn't in the first

David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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