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Re: no pangs of guilt that can't turn off M-x shell's ^ ! ?

From: Dan Jacobson
Subject: Re: no pangs of guilt that can't turn off M-x shell's ^ ! ?
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:09:10 +0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-pc-linux-gnu)

>> Come on guys, why so mum about the fact that one cannot turn off the
>> special effects of ! and ^ when running M-x shell?

K> Because I have no idea what you're talking about.  You should know
K> how to submit a proper bug report by now.

Only proper bugs deserve proper bug reports. <--original witty phrase debuting 

I'm talking about [*info* (emacs) History References]

$ emacs --no-site-file -q -nw -f shell
c a t RET ! ^ ! ^ ! ^ ! RET ESC p
One sees
$ cat
It has mangled my last line. I want the three lines to look the same.

>> It is quite disturbing for one who has turned them off years ago in
>> bash (set +o histexpand) to suddenly have them play tricks on one in
>> M-x shell.

K> Isn't your shell initialization file read, even under `M-x shell'?

To be clear, in my above example, I am not talking to the shell
anymore, but to cat. So don't bash bash. shell-mode is to blame.

K> If not, is this the effect you want:

K>          (local-set-key "!" 'keyboard-quit)
K>          (local-set-key "^" 'keyboard-quit)))

no, you're barfing up the wrong tree.  The shell-mode author thought
csh-style ! and ^ history substitutions were so great, he forgot to
leave a way to turn them off.  Yes, not being able to type them would
indeed fix the problem, as would snipping my keyboard cable. "rm -r
dangerous??, just local-set-key "r"...

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