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Re: Features: Scroll wheel/ball, right bar

From: Hans Aberg
Subject: Re: Features: Scroll wheel/ball, right bar
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:21:01 +0100

On 7 Dec 2005, at 18:06, Richard M. Stallman wrote:

Please try the development Emacs from CVS on savannah.gnu.org
and see if it handles this.  It does have support for "mouse wheels".

Yes, I will report this to Fink <http://fink.sourceforge.net/>, which provided the emacs21 I am using. I think this Fink for Mac OS X (I use 10.4.3) is a very convenient install/deinstall system, that any causal user can use, which perhaps GNU should have a look at, to spread its software even further to users. It serves only as a complement to traditional UNIX installs, though. But I found it very good that I can quickly take down a binary automatically tailored to my computer to check the software out, then move ahead with compiling it myself within Fink if I so like, and then perhaps take down a latest or CVS version of the program for a traditional home directory or /usr/local/ installation. So I might try to compile the CVS version later -- CVS works just fine under Mac OS 10.4.3, and I had to do that with the Flex version of which only the CVS version would compile correctly under BSD. But Mac OS X support for X Window is not yet complete, which staves me off a bit.

While at it, there is are also some Mac OS X/Emacs interaction issues, which may not belong to Emacs, but might be worth being aware of: The Mac OS X X11 xterm/uxterm versions support Mac OS X copy/ paste, which Emacs doesn't. One can get around this, by using X Window copy/paste into xterm/uxterm, but it is somewhat unnatural.

Second, the Emacs Meta key and the Mac OS X Command key use the same keyboard clover key, with the latter having precedence over the former if both are in use. The Mac OS X does not have many Command keys, so clashes are relatively rare. But when it is happens, it is an inconvenience. One can get around this problem by turning off the Mac Command key, but again, this is not natural for Mac users. The question is though finding a more convenient workaround: Perhaps persuading Apple admitting left/right clover be mapped differently, to Command/Meta (I may drop them a note). Or perhaps some Emacs hack, in the wait, which might be long. :-)

  Hans Aberg

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