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bug#12104: 24.1; customize-variable: Customize buffer does not hide stan

From: Raffaele Ricciardi
Subject: bug#12104: 24.1; customize-variable: Customize buffer does not hide standard settings
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:46:37 +0100
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0

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Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators for other languages.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and
the precise symptoms of the bug.  If you can, give a recipe
starting from `emacs -Q':

- emacs -Q
- M-x customize-variable RET blink-matching-delay RET

The Customize buffer shows the value of the option, whereas according
to the News it should starts out hidden because the value has not been

Anyway, I think that hiding the values of options betrays the expectations of
users, as no other application I know of does so.  At least, such hiding
should be configurable (I've found no option to change it).  Emacs already
detects and shows in the State field whether a variable has been changed or

Thank you for your attention.


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In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1)
 of 2012-06-12 on debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000
Configured using:
 `configure '--prefix=/home/lele/bin/emacs/emacs-24.1''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.utf8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Custom

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
C-. c g <backspace> <backspace> M-x c g <backspace>
u s t o m i <tab> - g r o <tab> <return> <return> <down-mouse-5>
<mouse-5> <double-down-mouse-5> <double-mouse-5> <help-echo>
M-x c u s t o m i <tab> - g r o <tab> <return> s h
o w <tab> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
p a r <tab> e n - b l i <tab> <return> <help-echo>
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-1> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <help-echo>
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <help-echo> C-. M-x r e p
o r t <tab> <return> C u s t o m i z e SPC g r o u
p SPC C-g M-x c u s t o m <tab> i <tab> - v a <tab>
<return> b l i n k <tab> m a t <tab> d e <tab> <return>
M-x r e p o <tab> - e <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Making completion list...
Creating customization items...
Creating customization items ...done
Resetting customization items...done
Creating customization setup...done
Making completion list...
Note: file is write protected
View mode: type C-h for help, h for commands, q to quit.
Quit [2 times]
call-interactively: End of buffer

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