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bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on
bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32
Sat, 25 May 2013 09:49:43 +0300
> From: Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden>
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 18:20:55 -0400
> >> The risk is that their version of GnuTLS is out of date.
> EZ> That happens with dozens of packages on each user's machine. There's
> EZ> nothing in GnuTLS that makes it unique in this regard.
> Yes, of course. I don't know the other packages we require to enable
> extra features on W32, sorry.
Those are the image libraries and libxml2. And, of course, any
prerequisite packages needed to build those: zlib, libintl, libiconv,
and the libraries, like libnettle, that GnuTLS depends on.
> I think GnuTLS is somewhat unique in this regard by being the only
> way to do secure communications with the outside world, but it's
> worth considering putting the other packages under the same
> mechanism as GnuTLS for installations and updates.
Security is not just about secure communications. I'm sure you know
> >> Installing and keeping GnuTLS up to date should not be the
> >> responsibility of the user.
> EZ> Says you. But since there's no one else to pick up the gauntlet,
> EZ> that's where this responsibility will need to rest. If J.R. Hacker
> EZ> needs GnuTLS today, he has no one else but himself to rely on. All
> EZ> we, the Emacs developers, do is just talk.
> I like to ask before I make changes, hence my request for votes in
> emacs-devel. Sorry if it seems like empty talk to you.
It is empty because it doesn't lead to any action. We've been talking
about this for months already.
> >> As far as I know GnuTLS status is back to "kosher."
> EZ> Not sure based on what you say this.
> Monitoring the GnuTLS mailing lists.
The actual discussions were private, not on any public list.
> I'm trying to get the work started by first and foremost deciding if
> Emacs as a project wants to do this at all. This is a decision for the
> maintainers and you've voted against it on emacs-devel, so let's see
> what the vote count is and what the maintainers say.
I think it's well beyond our capacities and resources, yes.
bug#14380: 24.3; `network-stream-open-tls' fails in some imap servers on w32, Ted Zlatanov, 2013/05/24
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