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bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incor
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Eli Zaretskii |
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bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect |
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Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:10:41 +0300 |
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
> Cc: kjambunathan@gmail.com, 15312@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:15:27 -0400
>
> > Perhaps we need to step back and talk about the situations where these
> > hooks are supposed to be used. Because I cannot see any sense in
> > calling the hooks when the values of these properties don't change.
>
> Agreed, but the code also runs the hook when the value of the
> `point-entered' does not change but the value of some unrelated
> property changes. That is an error.
Of course. But I was trying to say that we should formulate a clear
specification for when these hooks shall be called. What the manual
says now makes little sense to me (and is also somewhat vague).
> >> The right thing to do is to declare point-entered and point-left
> >> properties as obsolete and replace them by something like cursor-entered
> >> and cursor-left properties which are only checked at command boundaries
> >> (or better, checked just before redisplay).
> > Redisplay can be forced as part of a command.
>
> I know, and I think that for most uses of these kinds of properties we'd
> also want to run the hook when redisplay is called in the middle of
> a command (e.g. in the middle of query-replace). Note that we'd probably
> also want to run the hook when redisplay is short-circuited by pending input.
Calling this from redisplay might need some non-trivial protocol,
because the hook can legitimately move point, which will re-enter
redisplay, which will call the hook...
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, (continued)
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Stefan Monnier, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Stefan Monnier, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Jambunathan K, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Stefan Monnier, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Stefan Monnier, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/14
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Stefan Monnier, 2013/09/16
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Jambunathan K, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Stefan Monnier, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Stefan Monnier, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/14
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/09/13
- bug#15312: Info (point-entered, point-left): Doc incomplete, hence incorrect, Jambunathan K, 2013/09/14