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bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffe


From: N. Jackson
Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:31:07 -0300
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux)

At 05:11 -0300 on Thursday 2015-05-14, Jan D. wrote:

> The top row is a header row, it does not scroll, so there is no point
> in having the scroll bar extend into it.

It is visually unappealing.

More importantly, it is inconsistent with usage in other software.

For example, in a GUI file management program such as Dolphin or
Nautilus the top row of the client area of the window is also a header (
it contains the field headings such as "Name", "Date", and
"Permissions"), yet the scroll bar extends past this header to meet up
with the decorations across the top of the window.

And in a spreadsheet program such a LibreOffice Calc, the top row
contains the labels of the columns (such as "A", "B", "C"), yet, again,
the scroll bar extends up to the top of the window.

Emacs does a lot of things differently (and better) than other programs,
but the widgets of a graphical user interface constitute a visual
language. Would it not be better for Emacs to speak the same language as
the rest of the world rather than inventing its own?


>> 14 maj 2015 kl. 02:46 skrev N. Jackson <address@hidden>:
>> 
>> Recipe:
>> 
>> emacs -Q
>> M-x i n f o RET
>> 
>> Expected Result:
>> 
>> The vertical scroll bar extends over the entire frame height, "blending"
>> into the menu bar at the top right.
>> 
>> Observed Result:
>> 
>> The vertical scroll bar does not extend over the entire frame height.
>> There is a gap at the top, below the menu bar.
>> 
>> The top row of the info buffer, the one that contains the navigation
>> information, seems to extend too far to the right (although it does not
>> in fact seem to overlie (in the z-order as it were) the scroll bar,
>> rather the scroll bar appears to be drawn with its top below (in
>> y-coordinate) the top row of the info buffer.
>> 
>> The problem is more pronounced with a dark Emacs theme. (I use
>> Wheatgrass.)
>> 
>> I'm guessing the problem also affects other modes that use the top row
>> of the buffer in a similar way.
>> 
>> 
>> In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.12)
>> of 2015-04-17 on buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org
>> Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11603000
>> System Description:  Fedora release 21 (Twenty One)
>> 
>> Configured using:
>> `configure --build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
>> --host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix=
>> --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr
>> --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc
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>> --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var
>> --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man
>> --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png
>> --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm --with-x-toolkit=gtk3
>> --with-gpm=no build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu
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>> GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.12) of 
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>> easymenu wid-edit cl gv cl-loaddefs cl-lib bbdb-loaddefs time-date
>> tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel
>> x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list
>> newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer
>> select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core
>> frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai
>> tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european
>> ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help
>> simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp
>> files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule
>> custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process
>> dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
>> font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)
>> 
>> Memory information:
>> ((conses 16 372668 27850)
>> (symbols 48 52138 0)
>> (miscs 40 6459 5425)
>> (strings 32 93768 7075)
>> (string-bytes 1 3202758)
>> (vectors 16 34336)
>> (vector-slots 8 705256 8499)
>> (floats 8 332 557)
>> (intervals 56 4102 0)
>> (buffers 960 45)
>> (heap 1024 81762 1651))
>> 
>> 





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