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bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote displa
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Ken Raeburn |
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bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display |
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Wed, 7 Oct 2015 02:09:47 -0400 |
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:46, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@permabit.com>
>> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 05:30:42 -0400
>> Cc: 21473@debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> It looks like I was mistaken. It appears that it was using the arrow only
>> because that’s the default pointer shape for the X root window. According to
>> some of the X docs I was reading, if the “cursor” (pointer shape) is never
>> defined for a window, then the window uses the value from the parent window.
>>
>> If I change the root window’s default pointer shape, then when the mouse is
>> in the tooltip window it also uses that shape. I doubt that’s what we want;
>> one of the shapes used by Emacs would be better, even if we only allow one
>> to be used for that frame. Then again, if the window is supposed to go away
>> quickly, maybe we don’t care at all? On a slow, remote link, there can be
>> enough lag for the pointer to be visible in the tooltip window for a good
>> half second at least.
>>
>> The odd part: It appears that it’s already broken, even with the call to
>> x_set_mouse_color being applied to the tooltip frame. I’m still getting
>> whatever odd cursor shape I installed for the root window. This is with the
>> Xquartz server on OS X; I’ll try later with the X.org server.
It behaves the same on the x.org server. The default root-window mouse cursor
is a big “X”, and the same is true for the tooltip window.
>
> I suggest to make that call conditional on a user variable, by
> default off. Most users, certainly on fast networks, will never see
> that pointer anyway.
>
> WDYT?
They can see it if any CPU-intensive work keeps Emacs busy right after the
tooltip is displayed — garbage collection, auto-revert of large files,
processing of data received from the net, etc. Then Emacs may not be able to
make the X window disappear right away when the user moves the mouse.
I wonder if it might be better to change x_set_mouse_color to check some new
field “f->tooltip_p” that makes it define just one cursor. (The arrow we use
for non-text areas, or the vertical-bar xterm cursor we use for text?)
For users on fast networks, the extra traffic I’m worrying over — which I think
would then be reduced to three XSync exchanges, if we also do color-name
caching and TrueColor optimizations — wouldn’t be a big deal. A tiny price for
getting the display right in a minor case, if we can, and I think I can reduce
that count.
I think that’s probably better than a new Lisp variable to control low-level
protocol details that should usually be invisible, to deal with a problem that
we could fix reasonably well in the C code.
Of course, there’s also the little matter of making the cursor-setting actually
work. Until (unless?) that happens, we might as well disable it for everyone.
I can check that in if you'd like.
Ken
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, (continued)
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Ken Raeburn, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Ken Raeburn, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Ken Raeburn, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Ken Raeburn, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Ken Raeburn, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display,
Ken Raeburn <=
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/08
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Ken Raeburn, 2015/10/09
- bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Ken Raeburn, 2015/10/08
bug#21473: 24.5; very slow tooltip display to sort-of-slow remote display, Ken Raeburn, 2015/10/08