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bug#35383: 27.0.50; Complete process of decoding Gnus group names


From: Eric Abrahamsen
Subject: bug#35383: 27.0.50; Complete process of decoding Gnus group names
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:07:23 -0700
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Eric Abrahamsen <address@hidden> writes:

> Katsumi Yamaoka <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 09:10:13 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>> On 04/25/19 08:48 AM, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>>
>>>> Warning: Warning - invalid active:
>>
>>>> for the nnnil method, that is my `gnus-select-method'.  Here are
>>>> the contents of ~/News/agent/nnnil/agent.lib/active:
>>
>>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>>> ;; -*- encoding: utf-8-emacs; -*-
>>
>>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>>>> Why the warning is issued is to run (read (current-buffer)) at
>>>> the beginning of the contents.  This is actually an error but
>>>> `condition-case' conceals it.
>>
>>> Hmm, this is all done in a temp buffer,
>>
>> Yes.  When launching Gnus, the whole contents of the active file
>> are read into the " *nntpd*" buffer, copied into the temp buffer,
>> and parsed (see the flow summary attatched in the bottom of this
>> message for how Gnus behaves when launching).
>>
>>> with
>>> `insert-buffer-substring' -- I wonder if the encoding cookie will even
>>> be honored in this case?
>>
>> No, it's useless of course.  Moreover, --- I changed my idea
>> (patching the `gnus-active-to-gnus-format' function so as to
>> ignore the coding cookie) --- I come to think that the active
>> file should not contain the ones other than the active infos.
>> Gnus indeed ignores the coding cookie when parsing active, but
>> it is due to just a lucky side effect of `read':
>>
>> (read ";; coding cookie\n\nactive_info\n") => active_info
>>
>> I.e., `read' ignores comments in the ELisp style and whitespace.
>> However, in the first place, the active file is neither an ELisp
>> file nor there is no agreement for a comment style in it.  So, I
>> think it is better to bind `coding-system-for-(read|write)' while
>> reading and writing the active file rather than adding a coding
>> cookie.  Though binding `coding-system-for-(read|write)' would
>> probably be unnecessary since `gnus-write-active-file' binds
>> `coding-system-for-write' to `nnmail-active-file-coding-system',
>> and `gnus-agent-save-active' binds `coding-system-for-read' to
>> `gnus-agent-file-coding-system' that defaults to `utf-8-emacs'.
>> Therefore, adding a coding cookie was originally unnecessary,
>> wasn't it?
>>
>> Here are how Gnus reads the active file for the nnnil method
>> observed in my system.  Note that `gnus-agent' is t (the default).
>>
>> (gnus 1)
>>   [...]
>>   (gnus-setup-news nil t nil)
>>     (gnus-get-unread-articles 1 nil)
>>       (require 'gnus-agent)
>>       (with-current-buffer " *nntpd*"
>>         (gnus-read-active-file-1 '(nnnil) nil)
>>           (gnus-active-to-gnus-format '(nnnil) hashtb nil t)
>>             (gnus-agent-save-active '(nnil))
>>               (gnus-agent-write-active "active-file" hashtb)
>>                 ;; Add a coding cookie.
>>                 (gnus-write-active-file "active-file" hashtb nil)
>>               (erase-buffer)
>>               (nnheader-insert-file-contents "active-file")
>>             (_copy to_ " *nntpd*")
>>             (_parse it_)
>
> Hang on, let me slow down here.
>
> The goal is to have Gnus default to writing its active files in
> 'utf-8-emacs, unless the user has specifically requested otherwise.
> `nnmail-active-file-coding-system' governs the "mail" type servers, and
> `gnus-agent-file-coding-system' governs the agent. Currently those two
> options default to 'raw-text, we'd like them to default to 'utf-8-emacs.

Actually, maybe that's wrong. We don't care how the files are written,
only that, after parsing, the group names are successfully _decoded_ to
'utf-8-emacs. Maybe I'm trying too hard?





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