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bug#40813: [PATCH] Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode


From: Stefan Kangas
Subject: bug#40813: [PATCH] Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:19:11 +0200

Hi Alan,

Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> >> > I believe org-mode is vastly more well-known and arguably also more
> >> > intuitive to users.
>
> I'm certain that's not right.  Anybody who can use Emacs at all knows
> outline-mode well enough to use it effectively.

FWIW, I never learned outline-mode properly.  I gave up at some point
and learned org-mode instead, which was a much smoother process
(mostly due to much better default keybindings).  But I started using
Emacs as late as 2004, so I guess YMMV.

> Very much so.  If these files' modes are changed to org-mode, then
> sooner or later, org-mode enthusiasts will start filling them up with
> obscure org-mode features, such that only an "org-mode elite" will be
> able to edit these files.

Which features do you think people would be interested in using
besides the navigational commands?  I can't think of any.

> Org-mode is difficult to learn and opaque (see discussions of its
> documentation in other threads).  It is thus unsuitable for basic text
> files.

I obviously have a different opinion.  :-)

> I'm strongly against this change happening.  But if it is to happen, it
> should be drawn to people's attention by having a discussion in
> emacs-devel.

Yup, makes sense.  I'll do that.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas





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