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bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree |
Date: |
Sat, 30 Jan 2021 21:22:38 +0200 |
> From: Howard Melman <hmelman@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 13:48:38 -0500
>
> > This command has two bindings not because of its importance, but
> > because other programs out there use those bindings. Emacs is
> > following the expectations of the users here.
>
> Ok, but in emacs they expect and need both?
Yes, because some applications support one and others the other key
binding.
> How do they adjust in org mode? Or is this a complaint that users of
> right-word have in org-mode? Would users of outline-minor-mode
> adjust similarly?
The bindings have nothing to do with bidirectional text. C-<RIGHT>
and C-<LEFT> (and the corresponding M- bindings) have a meaning in
strict left-to-right text as well: they move by words in the
corresponding directions.
> Does outline-mode support right-to-left oriented outlines?
> Does org?
Yes to both questions, but again: the issue at hand has nothing to do
with bidirectional editing.
> I'm guessing not because then these arrow key bindings would want to
> adjust demote/promote behavior accordingly. Should they?
That's a separate issue, for which I have no definite opinions to
offer. I chimed in to set the record straight on these bindings
regardless of Org or Outline. Whether rebinding these to
level-related commands will or will not confuse users of Org and
Outline is something for those users to say.
> Maybe these bindings could be in another minor-mode that
> could be enabled by those users that want them?
> outline-use-org-bindings-minor-mode.
I think the idea is that many users want them.
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/01/28
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Pankaj Jangid, 2021/01/28
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Stefan Kangas, 2021/01/28
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/01/28
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Howard Melman, 2021/01/29
- bug#41129: [External] : bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Drew Adams, 2021/01/29
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/01/30
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Howard Melman, 2021/01/30
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/01/30
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Howard Melman, 2021/01/30
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Howard Melman, 2021/01/30
- bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/01/30