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bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead
From: |
Michael Welsh Duggan |
Subject: |
bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead |
Date: |
Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:09:40 -0400 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org> writes:
>>>> So in this instance, defaulting `visible-bell' to "on" would make
>>>> `C-g' more intrusive/obnoxious than previously... which is the
>>>> opposite effect than what was originally discussed in this bug
>>>> report.
>>>
>>> Can anything be done about that, though?
>>
>> I think this might point toward not doing anything about the default
>> -- people who don't like beeps will switch them off on the OS level.
>> That is, flipping the default will make `C-g' more intrusive for
>> people who've already made a decision to ignore beeps.
>>
>
> Note that for GNU/Linux users who use a more exotic window manager
> instead of Gnome or KDE, it's the opposite: they have to make an
> active decision to hear beeps. IOW, they will not hear any beep
> unless they configure their computer to do so.
>
> I checked on macOS, and the only apps (at least, the only apps among
> the ones I use) that repeatedly beep are the terminal and Emacs.
> Other apps only beep when you do something "wrong", that is, when they
> cannot do what you want (for example when you ask the program to paste
> something when there is nothing to paste), or when they open an
> important dialog. The terminal also beeps when it cannot do what you
> want (for example when you press TAB and it cannot complete the
> current input). In comparison, Emacs beeps a lot.
Really? I find that, in general, Emacs only beeps when it cannot do
what I want (for example, C-n at EOB) or I cancel an operation (C-g or
ESC ESC ESC). Under what other circumstances are you encountering
beeping?
--
Michael Welsh Duggan
(md5i@md5i.com)
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, (continued)
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Basil L. Contovounesios, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead,
Michael Welsh Duggan <=
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Michael Welsh Duggan, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: [External] : bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Drew Adams, 2021/04/17
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/18
- bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/04/18